# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2281 "2024-08-16T02:39:41Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > your liver is gonna be pissed at you either way. 😉 But at least one of those ways you’re going to enjoy it. (Not one soul was surprised the bourbon beat is big in the Lexington paper. ) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2282 "2024-08-16T02:47:46Z")
I thought there was a formula followed for such news stories. “It was unclear if the suspect had a Strangulation Lawyer to speak for him.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2283 "2024-08-16T03:10:33Z")
At least they are not based out of Boston. That would be a bad look. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2284 "2024-08-16T10:09:09Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Tough guy CEO attacks fairly scrawny 15-year-old for accidentally sprinkling water on his wife. > > [CEO charged for tossing teen on the floor of In-N-Out Burger: cops](https://nypost.com/2024/08/14/us-news/ceo-charged-for-tossing-teen-on-the-floor-of-in-n-out-burger-cops/) From the article: > Video showed the man repeatedly telling the startled-looking boy to “say sorry” before grabbing him in a chokehold and hurling him onto the tile floor. It was a sensible thing to do. I mean an apology is _totally_ legit and meaningful when you force it out of someone under threat of violence. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2285 "2024-08-16T11:25:39Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Video showed the man repeatedly telling the startled-looking boy to “say sorry” before grabbing him in a chokehold and hurling him onto the tile floor. I hope the judge has tough guy “say sorry” before he is sentenced. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2286 "2024-08-16T15:42:23Z")
Googling the name of the company where he was CEO, Summit Source Funding, it appears that it’s now shut down (though LinkedIn said there were only five people there). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2287 "2024-08-16T20:03:27Z")
They should call themselves strangulitigators. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2288 "2024-08-16T20:51:53Z")
I asked about it back in April over in the “Evil MFers” thread – apparently a considerable number of not just American states but other jurisdictions worldwide have been amending their code in recent years to specifically make an assault by nonlethal strangulation a crime on its own and not just one of the many acts that may be classed under assault and battery. Which in turn is spawning a sort of subspecialty in the Law to handle these cases. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2289 "2024-08-16T21:05:50Z")
Why is that? The law being changed, I mean? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2290 "2024-08-16T21:08:24Z")
I assume because victims of domestic violence often suffer nonlethal strangulation, and it is often a precursor to more serious attacks. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2291 "2024-08-16T21:10:32Z")
Ah. Also I would think that you can get brain damage or something from strangulation even if not fatal. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2292 "2024-08-16T21:21:37Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Also I would think that you can get brain damage or something from strangulation even if not fatal. If the strangulation lasts long enough for your brain to be deprived of oxygen, sure. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2293 "2024-08-16T23:45:46Z")
I think it’s also not all that hard to kill somebody by strangling them even if you didn’t intend to. So while strangulation may not have the intent needed for attempted murder, it carries a larger risk of killing the strangled person than some other methods of physical attack do. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2294 "2024-08-17T00:04:21Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I asked about it back in April over in the “Evil MFers” thread – apparently a considerable number of not just American states but other jurisdictions worldwide have been amending their code in recent years to specifically make an assault by nonlethal strangulation a crime on its own and not just one of the many acts that may be classed under assault and battery. Which in turn is spawning a sort of subspecialty in the Law to handle these cases. There are enough strangulation cases for some lawyers to specialize in it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2295 "2024-08-17T00:10:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > There are enough strangulation cases for some lawyers to specialize in it? - The law firm of Choke, Gaspe and Gurgl. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2296 "2024-08-17T00:25:45Z")
Who are proud to announce that Messr’s Fainte and Eckspeer have recently been promoted to full partner and whose names will soon grace spots 4 and 5 on our marquee. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2297 "2024-08-17T00:33:51Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > enough strangulation cases for some lawyers to specialize in it? At least some think it’s worth advertising about it (random ad resulting from a search engine, no endorsement implied) [![](https://www.garrettandwalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/assault-by-strangulation-lawyer.jpg) ](https://www.garrettandwalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/assault-by-strangulation-lawyer.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2298 "2024-08-17T00:43:59Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > There are enough strangulation cases for some lawyers to specialize in it? In Colorado, you have a rise of domestic violence deaths (particularly by strangulation) and an elevation of strangulation from a misdemeanor to a felony. That certainly seems like grounds for someone to specialize in an area of law that is in sudden demand. > **[Domestic violence deaths continue to rise in Colorado](https://www.kunc.org/news/2023-10-23/domestic-violence-deaths-continue-to-rise-in-colorado)** > > Deaths from domestic violence are at an all time high in Colorado. New data from the Colorado Domestic Violence Fatality Review Board shows there were 94 related deaths in 2022. > At A Woman’s Place, Heldt said she has seen an increase in the number of crisis calls and the severity of the trauma experienced over the past year. She has also seen an increase in strangulation cases. > > “As I talk with leaders at other state hospitals across Colorado, I know that that’s a trend (strangulation cases) that’s happening throughout the state,” she said. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2299 "2024-08-17T00:47:46Z")
Though looking at the actual website for that firm (Garrett, Walker, Aycoth & Olson), they seem to be a general firm (criminal law, family law, personal injury, traffic tickets, etc.). My guess is that ad is designed to pop up on various web pages with text specific to that page. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2300 "2024-08-17T02:03:36Z")
I noticed during the coverage of Jonathan Majors’ trial that contact with the neck was a separate area of offense, beyond grabbing and shaking in general. Just like its a separate offense to slap the phone out of the hand of someone who’s calling 911. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=116)