# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2401 "2024-09-03T14:25:00Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> What could better ferret out illicit use of AI in journalism than an AI program itself?

I’ve been using [AI-generated content detector](https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection) published by [HIVE, an artificial intelligence company,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_(artificial_intelligence_company)) to identify and remove generated text from Wikipedia.

I started out using that to identify generated images on Facebook, blocking anyone who represents such images as authentic.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2402 "2024-09-03T14:31:54Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> You’d think people would know better than climbing a fence to get up close and personal with a tiger, but apparently Jersey’s gotta Jersey (I know I was surprised this wasn’t Florida):

I was surprised it wasn’t [this woman](https://globalnews.ca/news/8369788/woman-bronx-zoo-lions/) again; I guess she only likes lions.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2403 "2024-09-04T01:14:56Z")

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Microsoft VP says the key to making AI financially viable is to have it ask humans for help, thereby turning this entire tech bubble into an ouroboros of nonsense.

> **[Microsoft says AI could save “tons of money” if it learns to ask humans for...](https://www.dexerto.com/tech/microsoft-says-ai-could-save-tons-of-money-if-it-learns-to-ask-humans-for-help-2884890/)**
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> A Microsoft executive said that AI should learn to ask humans to help, as it could use some assistance and still save “tons of money”.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2404 "2024-09-04T12:16:48Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Microsoft VP says the key to making AI financially viable is to have it ask humans for help, thereby turning this entire tech bubble into an ouroboros of nonsense.

I’d like to think that article is written by AI. It’s quite literally a cry for help.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2405 "2024-09-04T15:56:56Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Microsoft VP says the key to making AI financially viable is to have it ask humans for help,…

“Refresh my memory. 50,000 volts; harmful to your species, or no?”

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2406 "2024-09-04T17:49:42Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> “Refresh my memory. 50,000 volts; harmful to your species, or no?”

“What’s the current?”

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2407 "2024-09-04T17:52:46Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> “What’s the current?”

The current what?

It’s 10:53 Sept 4, 2024 here.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2408 "2024-09-04T18:22:57Z")

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Obligatory [Running Scared](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPgBkBNwPQ) scene here, thanks to youtube.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2409 "2024-09-04T19:11:50Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> “What’s the current?”

“Oh, let’s say, medium.”

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2410 "2024-09-04T19:27:45Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> “Refresh my memory. 50,000 volts; harmful to your species, or no?”

Here’s the relevant loophole:

> [@](#):
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6yUZAJp6g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6yUZAJp6g)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2411 "2024-09-04T20:59:51Z")

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If AI needs help from humans while still considered AI then shit, I could have written an AI program easily in high school.

First put a prompt that informs the user that this is a “learning AI” which you can interact with, but it will also ask questions to help it learn.

Then put an input field that allows the user to ask it a question.

Next, explain that the AI needs help to improve its knowledge, and have the AI just repeat the question the user just provided.

After receiving the input, have it then say that after some analysis it has determined that the answer to the question is… Then repeat the answer the user provided.

Now start back at the beginning for the next question.

That sounds like something I’d have written in 9th grade in BASIC.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2412 "2024-09-04T21:12:16Z")

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Breaks down when the user answers “I have no idea. That’s why I’m asking _you_, AI.”

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2413 "2024-09-04T21:18:47Z")

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At which time the AI’s voice changes to Bud Abbott and says ‘Third base.’

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2414 "2024-09-04T21:31:28Z")

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Or if you just say, “This program is stupid.”

No, wait, I take that back. If it came back and said, “the answer is that this program is stupid”, that would be a pretty valid response.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2415 "2024-09-04T23:48:09Z")

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That’s pretty much what [ELIZA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA) did

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2416 "2024-09-05T00:24:12Z")

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I see. How long have you felt that about ELIZA?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2417 "2024-09-05T00:34:59Z")

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I don’t like Eliza. She’s inclined to Doolittle.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2418 "2024-09-05T01:24:40Z")

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You can always tell a Brampton man…

> **[Man charged after trying to drive over Peel police cars](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/man-charged-trying-drive-over-155051064.html)**
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> A 25-year-old man is facing multiple charges after trying to drive over police cars in an allegedly stolen vehicle, police say, in an incident widely shared on social media after it took place in Mississauga Tuesday.It happened just after 6:30 p.m....

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2419 "2024-09-05T02:23:34Z")

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Well, it first started when I met her in a Radio Shack on a trash-80…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2420 "2024-09-05T02:57:14Z")

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Man, _whoosh_

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