# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 123
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2441 "2024-09-06T22:02:09Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Note: E8 as Command Senior -so she goes down one grade to E7. And agree that I would have expected something heavier. Damn brain farts. Right. I know SCPO = E8. MCPO = E9 & CPO = E7. Again, damn brain farts. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2442 "2024-09-06T22:15:39Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > If anything, I’m guessing the minor punishments are being used to avoid a larger investigation that would show how completely clueless the officers were. Yeah, it looks like the officers had no idea what was going on on their own ship. If they missed this, what else did they miss? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2443 "2024-09-06T23:02:36Z")
According to that _Navy Times_ article linked above, > The Navy also ousted the second-in-command of the ship’s gold crew, Cmdr. Matthew Yokeley, in May 2023. The reliefs of Marrero and Yokeley were not related, according to SURFPAC, which declined to provide further details regarding the reasons for Yokeley’s ouster. Maybe it’s just a “let’s fix all these problems by attrition” thing. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2444 "2024-09-07T02:05:07Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > A Starlink tranceiver, WiFi hotspot and _repeaters_ throughout the ship? Might as well have lit it up like a Christmas tree in the RF spectrum. And on a ship designed to be stealthy. > [@Monty](#): > > The level of court-martial determines the maximum penalty available. A special court-martial is basically a glorified Article 15 and, [according to this Wiki link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courts-martial_of_the_United_States#Summary_court-martial), Which makes one wonder how the Navy shore-side brass chose that level. I smell a certain degree of official reluctance to delve too deeply into this ship’s particular shit. For reasons unclear to the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2445 "2024-09-07T10:14:07Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > The level of court-martial determines the maximum penalty available. A special court-martial is basically a glorified Article 15 and, [according to this Wiki link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courts-martial_of_the_United_States#Summary_court-martial), > > Which makes one wonder how the Navy shore-side brass chose that level. > > I smell a certain degree of official reluctance to delve too deeply into this ship’s particular shit. For reasons unclear to the rest of us. The shore staff would not have been involved in this, most likely. There’s something called _the Navy vessel exception_ which dictates that Navy and Marine Corps personnel embarked on Naval vessels do not have the right to decline Article 15 or Summary Court-Martial proceedings, nor do they have the right to appeal the decision of such proceedings, although they can appeal the severity of the punishment awarded. In this instance, I can see the ship’s captain and the captain’s ISIC (_I_mmediate _S_uperior _I_n _C_ommand) wanting to have the charges disposed of (that’s military terminology for "dealt with\*) expeditiously for a few reasons. It’s easy to believe one of those reasons is to get through the certain slew of individuals charged as it seems the entire Chief’s Mess is part of this disgrace to the Navy. What TPTB seem to be missing is how resolving this in such a way and at this speed is also showing the Navy in a bad light. Mind you, I personally find the Naval vessel exception to be unconstitutional, but I seem to be in the minority. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2446 "2024-09-08T17:31:34Z")
This post could go in one of about five different threads. Apologies in advance to those of you who have blocked X. Summary below. > Charlie Kirk is talking with some fellow losers about the NFL, and the teams they hate. Kirk on the Dallas Cowboys: > “The Cowboys are so easy to hate. Why is every Cowboys fan like a 5 foot 6 Mexican with long jean shorts?” Yeah, Charlie, that should endear you to all your followers in Texas. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2447 "2024-09-08T17:53:37Z")
At least two of those guys have never thrown a football. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2448 "2024-09-08T18:02:03Z")
In fiction, one sometimes encounters the notion of a “misfits unit” in the military, where you take all of your general screw-ups and put them on the same ship or in the same company, or whatever, and then just make sure to keep that one ship well away from anything actually important. Is there any truth to that? Because this sure looks like a whole ship full of screw-ups. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2449 "2024-09-08T18:12:28Z")
On any given down, there are 20 or 21 players on the field who have never thrown a football (in a game situation). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2450 "2024-09-08T20:51:55Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > In fiction, one sometimes encounters the notion of a “misfits unit” in the military, where you take all of your general screw-ups and put them on the same ship Stripes 2: Out at Sea ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2451 "2024-09-08T20:56:44Z")
Or the excellent Apple TV series, _Slow Horses_, which we’ve been discussing in the Series You’ve Been Watching thread. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2452 "2024-09-08T21:15:22Z")
There is also a dedicated thread. > [@Slow Horses (careful about spoilers, please)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slow-horses-careful-about-spoilers-please/994207/): > > I don’t think this ever had a thread of its own, but I think it deserves one. It is midway through season three now, and I’m still enjoying it. A nice mix between serious spy drama and humor. Kinda depressing to see Oldman as an old man, though. Aaaaaand… discuss! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2453 "2024-09-09T12:54:12Z")
Maybe he insulted the new bride: > **[Michigan couple arrested after groom allegedly kills groomsman hours after...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/07/michigan-couple-arrested-groomsman-killed)** > > James Shirah, 22, allegedly ran over groomsman with SUV, mortally wounding him, following argument on 30 August ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2454 "2024-09-09T13:07:28Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Maybe he insulted the new bride: > > [Michigan couple arrested after groom allegedly kills groomsman hours after wedding | US crime | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/07/michigan-couple-arrested-groomsman-killed) - They look nice. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2455 "2024-09-09T13:14:14Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > They look nice And classy: > The couple reportedly held their wedding in a local pizzeria ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2456 "2024-09-09T13:20:12Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Maybe he insulted the new bride: Or maybe he liked the bride a little too much? ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2457 "2024-09-09T13:28:28Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > And classy: > > > The couple reportedly held their wedding in a local pizzeria The first thing they teach you in pizzeria wedding school: no witnesses ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2458 "2024-09-09T15:19:46Z")
You have to have witnesses or it’s not a valid wedding. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2459 "2024-09-09T15:25:10Z")
Yeah, but the witness was also the victim. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2460 "2024-09-09T15:38:53Z")
That story had a link to a story about a Trumper bumper that I hadn’t heard about: > **[Michigan man kills himself after running over 80-year-old Trump supporter](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/23/hancock-michigan-man-death-)** > > The man called police to confess to a crime and then killed himself before authorities arrived at the scene [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=122) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=124)