# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2901 "2024-11-21T13:30:40Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> To be clear, I’m only assuming the police were never called.

I’m assuming the doctor paid his staff well enough for them to tolerate his behavior to a certain point.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2902 "2024-11-21T13:53:22Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> To be clear, I’m only assuming the police were never called.

Not sure what the police could have done, prior to the sexual assault. If i want to walk around naked in my office, not a police matter. Similarly to the ‘nakedDrDave’ Instagram account.

The state version of a medical board, on the other hand, probably should have responded to the office antics. Once again, I don’t see a problem with his IG account.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2903 "2024-11-21T14:22:27Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Not sure what the police could have done, prior to the sexual assault. If i want to walk around naked in my office, not a police matter. Similarly to the ‘nakedDrDave’ Instagram account.

I think a doctor’s office is legally considered a “public accommodation” and therefore no, you can’t walk around naked in it, even if you own it.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2904 "2024-11-21T15:56:30Z")

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Most doctor’s offices I’ve been in have public areas (waiting room), semi-private areas (hallways between exam rooms) and private areas (the doctor’s actual office), so this may be a gray area. Then there’s the lunch period, when the public is not allowed in at all.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2905 "2024-11-21T16:30:27Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’m assuming the doctor paid his staff well enough for them to tolerate his behavior to a certain point.

Sure, but when they decided they weren’t being paid enough, that’s when you call the cops (in this case).

> [@Folacin](#):
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> Not sure what the police could have done, prior to the sexual assault. If i want to walk around naked in my office, not a police matter.

I wondered about that, but this isn’t like walking around your house naked with guests over. It’s more like a store manager walking around naked.  
And, if the doctor is just part of a medical group and doesn’t own the building and/or practice, someone above him could still have him removed.  
Also worth noting that the people that saw him, worked there. So he, purposely or otherwise, exploited the power imbalance, which may be why he got away with it until it became more than just him wandering around naked.

> [@Folacin](#):
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> Once again, I don’t see a problem with his IG account.

And that seems to be what the state board said as well. However, the IG account will still help to show a pattern of him doing this kind of thing.

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Then there’s the lunch period, when the public is not allowed in at all.

This happened during normal business hours. Also, my business delivers food to doctor’s offices. Many, if not most of the places we deliver to are still very much open during lunch. I’ve spent a lot of time carrying food into break rooms while trying not to bump into patients on the way back.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2906 "2024-11-21T17:21:59Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I think a doctor’s office is legally considered a “public accommodation” and therefore no, you can’t walk around naked in it, even if you own it.

I’m not aware of any law against simply being naked in public. But I’m sure that greatly depends on one’s location.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2907 "2024-11-21T17:33:53Z")

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Thinking back, I seem to remember disrobing in my doctor’s office.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2908 "2024-11-21T17:52:27Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I’m not aware of any law against simply being naked in public. But I’m sure that greatly depends on one’s location.

From wiki:

> **[Indecent exposure in the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure_in_the_United_States?useskin=vector)**
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> In the United States, indecent exposure refers to conduct undertaken in a non-private or (in some jurisdictions) publicly viewable location, which is deemed indecent in nature, such as nudity, masturbation or sexual intercourse. Such activity is often illegal. The legal definition in a given location may not specify all activities that would be covered.
> Indecent exposure may also be referred to as "sexual misconduct" or "public lewdness".
> The issue of flashing or indecent exposure can be tr...

> In the United States, states have differing nudity and public decency laws.[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure_in_the_United_States?useskin=vector#cite_note-4) In most states, state law prohibits exposure of the genitals and/or the female nipples in a [public place](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_place), while in other states simple nudity is legal, but evidence of intent to shock, arouse or offend other persons ([lewd conduct](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewd_conduct)) is evidence of prohibited conduct.

I think you also have to take into account the difference between “public places” and “public property”.

Even if he was just walking around, being that he was doing this in a doctor’s office and around employees/subordinates, it could likely be argued that he was doing this with the intent to shock or offend.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2909 "2024-11-21T18:54:06Z")

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Without conducting research beyond reading the wikibox @Joey_P just helpfully provided …

Let’s remember this event is in Arkansas. One of the Bible Belt states.

If I was to bet whether their laws took a relaxed permissive stance or an uptight prohibitive stance on simple public nudity, I’d go for “uptight prohibitive”. That’s _before_ we consider the semi-captive nature of employees or patients awaiting appointments.

This guy is boned. And would have been a lot sooner if somebody had the 'nads to report him to police.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2910 "2024-11-21T18:54:40Z")

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Stupid MF responds to 3 traffic tickets by setting fire to a house he thought was where the trooper lived (it was actually his father’s house). No one was hurt but the house was destroyed. He’s now facing 20 years in prison.

> **[Man Sets House on Fire as Revenge for Traffic Tickets](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-sets-house-fire-revenge-225302000.html)**
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> Tyler Williams pleaded guilty to arson after authorities say he intentionally burned down a house for revenge because he was issued traffic tickets by a state trooper. The tickets the 26-year-old man got were for tailgating, failing to use a...

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2911 "2024-11-21T18:57:25Z")

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My late wife was an attorney. Who early in her career often did freebie legal aid consults for folks in minor trouble.

One of her joking comments to me after the fact was that some of these folks were trying awfully hard to parlay a traffic ticket into Murder 1.

Well, it seems like this guy came awfully close. Good thing everyone escaped the house fire.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2912 "2024-11-21T18:58:31Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> If I was to bet whether their laws took a relaxed permissive stance or an uptight prohibitive stance on simple public nudity, I’d go for “uptight prohibitive”.

For women, anyway.

For a man, a slap on the wrist from a good ole boy judge would not be shocking. Blytheville is the biggest town in the county (I grew up in the co-county seat down the road 🤷‍♂️) but it’s not exactly a cosmopolitan area

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2913 "2024-11-21T19:23:50Z")

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I’ve driven through Blytheville. Yeah, not a lot of “there” there. And the sort of place where a “leading (male) citizen, a paragon of the community and local church” would have all his indiscretions quickly swept under a very large rug.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2914 "2024-11-21T19:25:02Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Stupid MF responds to 3 traffic tickets by setting fire to a house he thought was where the trooper lived (it was actually his father’s house).

My first thought was Florida, but no, New York.

The guy looks like he could easily be played by Bill Hader, if Bill changed his hairstyle.

[![](https://www.nydailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/443643.jpg?w=1079) ](https://www.nydailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/443643.jpg?w=1079)

[![](https://assets.mycast.io/actor_images/actor-bill-hader-334489_small.jpg?1640790799) ](https://assets.mycast.io/actor_images/actor-bill-hader-334489_small.jpg?1640790799)

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2915 "2024-11-21T22:40:07Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> my business delivers food to doctor’s offices. Many, if not most of the places we deliver to are still very much open during lunch. I’ve spent a lot of time carrying food into break rooms while trying not to bump into patients on the way back.

Depends on the doctor’s office business practices. My former PCP’s practice locked the door at 12:15 and if your appointment was at 1:15, you waited in the hall until they unlocked the door. This may be rare. Of course, if the incidents didn’t happen during lunch, that part is moot.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2916 "2024-11-22T00:42:57Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> My former PCP’s practice locked the door at 12:15 and if your appointment was at 1:15, you waited in the hall until they unlocked the door.

My dentist is the same way. Doors are locked at 12:00 and open at 1:00. I’ve learned not to be early for a 1:00 appointment.

I assumed this was because everyone went to lunch at that time. Now I’m not so sure…

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2917 "2024-11-23T15:59:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …which may in fact cross boundaries

No. _Really_?

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> This happened during normal business hours. Also, my business delivers food to doctor’s offices. Many, if not most of the places we deliver to are still very much open during lunch. I’ve spent a lot of time carrying food into break rooms while trying not to bump into patients on the way back.

In the video, the good doctor seems to be behaving oddly around a pizza. I don’t think anyone would want to eat food left unprotected in that office.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2918 "2024-11-24T01:47:25Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> My dentist is the same way. Doors are locked at 12:00 and open at 1:00. I’ve learned not to be early for a 1:00 appointment.

Our Vet’s office was the same, but they did have an emergency number on the door.

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**Author:** ![Dogginit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogginit/32/16920_2.png) [@Dogginit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogginit)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2919 "2024-11-28T18:40:37Z")

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It’s not always [Florida Man](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/26/tiktok-influencer-arrested-shoplifting-cape-coral-florida/76591872007/). Florida Tiktok influencer arrested for shoplifting $500 worth of goods by using a fake bar code at self-checkout, then posting the video to Tiktok.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2920 "2024-11-28T19:07:37Z")

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> [@Dogginit](#):
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> then posting the video to Tiktok.

We used to watch a true-crime show with Lt. Joe Kenda. Something I said often while watching the show was ‘Rule Number 1: If you don’t want to get caught, _don’t tell anybody!_’

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