# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 148
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2941 "2024-11-29T20:35:28Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > You know, that’s pretty much the plot line for season one of The Americans. I haven’t seen that, but this latest discussion is reminding me of Escape At Dannemora. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2942 "2024-11-29T20:50:17Z")
Billboard magazine put together a video tribute to Taylor Swift to celebrate her being one of the top musical acts of this century. It inclided a clip from a Kanye West video depicting a nude wax sculpture of her. > **[Billboard apologizes to Taylor Swift for video snafu | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/29/entertainment/billboard-apologizes-taylor-swift-video/index.html)** > > Billboard magazine is “deeply sorry” to Taylor Swift after an attempt to celebrate her. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2943 "2024-11-29T22:30:06Z")
> [@susan](#): > > This is good for teacher training, too. Sounds like it might be useful corrections officer training too. But might be a bit beyond the state’s (or worse yet private correction company’s) level of give-a-shit, or the officer trainees’ own levels of self awareness and ability to think & write. You’re dealing with smart motivated people. Those other employers, often less so. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2944 "2024-11-29T22:33:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The first bad idea was coming down from the trees. It’s gotten worse since. I’m tempted to say it was coming out of the ocean. Or maybe a single-cell organism dividing in such a way that it created differentiated cells. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2945 "2024-11-29T23:03:04Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Sounds like it might be useful corrections officer training too. But might be a bit beyond the state’s (or worse yet private correction company’s) level of give-a-shit, or the officer trainees’ own levels of self awareness and ability to think & write. Oh, subornation of staff is a big topic in training of officers and civilian prison workers, at least in my state, which has no private prisons (WI). With yearly mandatory refreshers on the topic. The more this topic is covered, the fewer such incidents. But reducing them to zero seems beyond the ability of the training. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2946 "2024-11-30T15:51:05Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > The guards can be scarier than the prisoners IME. Had a relative who was a prison guard. He said the personalities of the guards and the prisoners were almost identical. I’d like to think that part of the Fireball Gifting was the guard thinking “Damn, if I were in here I’d sure want a shot of cinnamon and alcohol once in a while. And Jimbo here’s a good dude, and willing to pay me for it…” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2947 "2024-11-30T16:26:56Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Had a relative who was a prison guard. He said the personalities of the guards and the prisoners were almost identical. My wife was a prison guard for two weeks. She said most of the guards they hired (in Tennessee) did not even graduate high school. She said that the ‘good’ guards eventually wanted to become cops. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2948 "2024-11-30T23:43:30Z")
Carnival Cruises has banned passengers from displaying upside-down pineapples on their cabin doors after learning that they were being used as code for being open to swinging. > **[Carnival bans upside down pineapple decorations](https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/carnival-announces-ban-on-upside-down-pineapple-decorations-cincinnati-swinger-culture-lifestyle-cincinnati-spreading-awareness-crackdown-confirmed-comfortable-environment-family-friendly-image-alignment-consumer-the-habit-unintended-misunderstanding)** > > Sources say other symbols, like pink flamingos, unicorns, garden gnomes and others may also be prohibited. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2949 "2024-12-01T00:05:04Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Inmates can be experts on compromising staff; being helpful and solicitous towards the corrections officers and getting them to grant some minor favors, which start off as being within the rules, then they move on to asking for favors that are technically against the rules but pretty harmless. But once an officer breaks a rule for an inmate, the inmate has a hook into them, and can threaten to reveal the violation and get the officer in trouble if they don’t cooperate further. That also sounds a lot like the MO of many child sex predators. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2950 "2024-12-01T00:07:08Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > grant some minor favors, which start off as being within the rules, I don’t really get this. If it’s within the rules, then it’s not a favor, at least IMHO. How am I wrong on that? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2951 "2024-12-01T00:11:11Z")
Something can be allowed by the rules, but not required by the rules - i.e. up to the guard’s discretion. That would be a favor. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2952 "2024-12-01T00:20:47Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I don’t really get this. If it’s within the rules, then it’s not a favor, at least IMHO. What @Andy_L said. Historically some prisons have tried to run by the principle of “that which is not required is forbidden” but that seldom works very well. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2953 "2024-12-01T00:46:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Carnival Cruises has banned passengers from displaying upside-down pineapples on their cabin doors after learning that they were being used as code for being open to swinging. Please explain who or what you think is stupid here. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2954 "2024-12-01T00:59:04Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Please explain who or what you think is stupid here …everyone involved? Advertising that you’re cruising for anonymous sex in an anarcho-capitalist floating hotel where very few laws apply doesn’t seem like the wisest course of action, and Carnival making a public announcement that they’re cracking down only draws attention to it and creates the perception that they’re “the sex cruise”. Also, an upside-down pineapple is an inherently stupid way of trying to say you’re down to clown. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2955 "2024-12-01T01:16:23Z")
What’s funny is the pineapple code is known on every cruise line by anyone paying the slightest attention. Carnival has selected an especially stupid windmill with which to tilt. The outcome will be no change in swinging, but lots of laughing stock publicity for Carnival. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2956 "2024-12-01T01:27:16Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Also, an upside-down pineapple is an inherently stupid way of trying to say you’re down to clown. And just to think, pineapple upside down cake is one of my favorite desserts. Have I been putting out the wrong signals all these years?! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2957 "2024-12-01T06:24:26Z")
My wife and I took an MSC cruise a few months back, and we didn’t see a single pineapple on the entire ship, no matter how hard we looked. …I mean, I’m not saying we would have done anything, but it’s nice to have options. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2958 "2024-12-01T08:03:44Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > What’s funny is the pineapple code is known on every cruise line by anyone paying the slightest attention. I’ve never been on a cruise, but I imagine I could spend a week on a ship and remain clueless to any inverted-fruit-based signals. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2959 "2024-12-01T10:12:43Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Please explain who or what you think is stupid here. My mum makes a excellent pineapple upside down cake: [Pineapple Upside Down Cake](https://www.recipetineats.com/pineapple-upside-down-cake/) ( her recipe differs, but that is close ) I am reasonably sure she is not a swinger, but I hope I never know. Edit: re, “inverted fruit” ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2960 "2024-12-01T11:17:24Z")
I was on a cruise once. I didn’t notice any upside down pineapples on doors. It’s a good thing too because I’d have just thought it looked cool and followed suit completely unaware of the signal I was sending. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=147) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=149)