# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3061 "2024-12-11T17:12:13Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Yes.
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> There is sometimes more than one child. There is sometimes more than one dog. There is occasionally more than one cat.
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> There is always more than one deer. The only question is whether the others have already crossed.

[One Train May Hide Another](https://poets.org/poem/one-train-may-hide-another)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3062 "2024-12-11T17:20:13Z")

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Yeah. Same here. We will have snow and ice until May. You have to plan accordingly. Gonna be late to get to first runs at the ski area? Tough shit.

4x4 helps a tiny, tiny bit with engine braking when you take your foot off the gas. Four wheels are slowing down, not just two. Of course it does nothing with just using your brakes.

But otherwise, yeah, it doesn’t do jack.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3063 "2024-12-11T17:22:12Z")

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On ice, four wheel drive becomes four wheel slide.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3064 "2024-12-11T17:35:22Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> One of the mothers in that story had her newborn baby and three other children sent to foster care for eleven days. So not a long time

It would have absolutely terrified me when I was between around one and four. Maybe even later. I think it might have screwed me up for years.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3065 "2024-12-11T17:45:10Z")

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My friend was headed west on the freeway one very cold morning. Several 4x4s blew past him just before the pass. He came over the pass at a reasonable speed, and observed all those 4x4s off the shoulder, in various states of disarray. Because, the sun had warmed the road on the east side, but the west side was still in frosty shadow.

Overconfidence can be deadly.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3066 "2024-12-11T18:20:27Z")

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An Ohio lawmaker wants to make [“flag planting”](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42913316/flag-planting-ohio-state-felony-proposed-law) a felony.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3067 "2024-12-11T18:31:26Z")

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4-wheel drive is not 4-wheel steer. And every car has 4-wheel brake.

Lotta folks have a hard time understanding that.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3068 "2024-12-11T19:00:55Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> An Ohio lawmaker wants to make [“flag planting”](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42913316/flag-planting-ohio-state-felony-proposed-law) a felony.

Reading the link, I came away thinking it’s absurd to reclassify disorderly conduct and misdemeanor trespassing as ANY class of felony.

Don’t tickets into each game have some kind of “code of expected conduct” printed on the back?

What’s next? Cutting down the losing team’s net after a basketball game as a capital crime?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3069 "2024-12-11T19:02:10Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> An Ohio lawmaker wants to make [“flag planting”](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42913316/flag-planting-ohio-state-felony-proposed-law) a felony.

Not paying even a modicum of attention to sports, I’m not sure what that’s all about, but that bill looks like it was written, almost deliberately, with a loop hole built it.  
""No person shall plant a flagpole with a flag attached to it "  
Any reason why I can’t plant a flagpole, then put a flag on it, as two distinct acts?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3070 "2024-12-11T19:11:26Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Not paying even a modicum of attention to sports, I’m not sure what that’s all about,

Sore loser, basically.

Ohio State and Michigan have a long time football rivalry going on. Michigan won this year as an underdog over Ohio State at Ohio State and a Michigan player brought out a school flag to midfield to ‘plant’ it (hence asserting superiority and dominance as the winner over the losing home team). OSU players took exception and there was a brawl.

While there are some legitimate questions about appropriate behavior during and after football games (for my money, rather than flag planting, fans storming the field have gotten a touch out of hand), introducing a bill to make flag planting a felony is one of those dumb homer things some lawmakers do because they are deeply unserious people who realize they can score cheap political points with the constituents with dumb stunts without any realistic expectation their bills will go anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3071 "2024-12-11T19:48:29Z")

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He said, “What were you arrested for, kid?”

And I said, “Planting a flag.” And they all moved away from me on the bench  
there

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3072 "2024-12-11T19:48:44Z")

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While Michigan’s attempt at “flag planting” was BS (don’t taunt the loser in their own stadium), Ohio State’s response to flag planting WAS criminal: You cannot assault folks for being assholes. I think this is their state response: While we know OUR response was criminal, we want to make sure what YOU did is also criminal so we are both equally bad.

It was a great game beyond the assholing and the criminal physical assaulting of others at the end.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3073 "2024-12-11T20:19:44Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> OSU players took exception and there was a brawl.

If only there were a different way to make assault and battery illegal.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3074 "2024-12-11T20:20:12Z")

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> According to Williams’ bill, "No person shall plant a flagpole with a flag attached to it in the center of the football field at Ohio stadium of the Ohio State University on the day of a college football competition….

Is it “the” or “The” Ohio State University?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3075 "2024-12-11T20:23:26Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> If only there were a different way to make assault and battery illegal.

I guess he still had enough shame not to make the law “Anything OSU players do on or off the field is totally cool but we must approve everything visiting players do, including winning games, under penalty of prison”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3076 "2024-12-11T20:31:10Z")

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With Democrats this stupid, who needs Republicans?

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ld27267tg22m)**
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> Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal: "Elon Musk is the champion among big tech executives of 1st Amendment values and principles"

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3077 "2024-12-11T20:52:00Z")

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Ohio Supreme Court says that the phrase “boneless wings” does not imply that the food contains no bones.

> **[Ohio Supreme Court won't reconsider boneless chicken wing case • Ohio Capital...](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/briefs/ohio-supreme-court-wont-reconsider-boneless-chicken-wing-case/)**
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> The Ohio Supreme Court has denied a request to reconsider their ruling earlier this year that boneless chicken wings can have bones.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3078 "2024-12-11T22:03:28Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> He said, “What were you arrested for, kid?”
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> And I said, “Planting a flag.” And they all moved away from me on the bench  
> there

Until I said “And starting a riot.” and they all came back and shook my hand and we had a grand ol’ time

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3079 "2024-12-11T23:45:05Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Ohio Supreme Court says that the phrase “boneless wings” does not imply that the food contains no bones.

I know sometimes boneless chicken/pork/whatever might have a bone missed by whatever process removes them, and I’ve found bone chips and such in a ground meat or sausage. It happens. But if you can declare something as boneless without even trying to remove bones, how does that not render the whole point of food label laws meaningless?

I don’t understand how you can even begin to justify that argument.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3080 "2024-12-12T03:06:28Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Ohio Supreme Court says that the phrase “boneless wings” does not imply that the food contains no bones.

I remember **Lowering the Bar** reporting on a law suit that complained that those weren’t wings that had been de-boned - those were chicken meat cut into wing-shaped bits and fried or baked various ways. The judge ruled that they didn’t have to be wings. I might look for it.

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