# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3141 "2024-12-14T16:26:44Z")

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I think some people just only feel happy if they’re right close to another vehicle. Must Have Company, Don’t Want To Feel Alone Out Here??

I don’t understand it, either – I feel much happier on the road if there’s a whole lot of space around me – but it’s the only explanation I can come up with for some people’s behavior.

– I was once on a winding hilly country road when I came around a curve to see several deer running across the road right in front of me. I slammed on my brakes – to the accompaniment moments later of squealing brakes behind me as two cars much too close together swerved around the road as they tried, successfully, to avoid hitting either me or each other.

After which, they went right back to tailgating me (and each other). I pulled over on the shoulder, and they passed me – one of them rolling down his window to ask whether I was all right. I just waved him on, not thinking quite fast enough to say ‘I’ll be a whole lot better once you’re off my tail. This road might have more deer on it up ahead!’

Even if they hadn’t seen the deer – would you continue to tailgate a vehicle that had just slammed its brakes on right in front of you?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3142 "2024-12-14T16:36:07Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I do NOT understand people who ride your butt even when you’ve slowed _way_ down… and there are two other wide open lanes!

They’re drafting to save gas.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3143 "2024-12-14T16:51:02Z")

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Muscles that a bird uses a lot are dark meat. Muscles that a bird uses very little are light meat. Breasts and wings are flight muscles, and chickens and turkeys aren’t much of fliers, so those are light meat on the most commonly eaten fowl. But ducks, for instance, use their flight muscles a lot, so everything’s dark meat on a duck.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3144 "2024-12-14T17:05:42Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I think some people just only feel happy if they’re right close to another vehicle. Must Have Company, Don’t Want To Feel Alone Out Here??

From what I can tell, in my area, driving is a social behavior. We have often referred to clusters of vehicles on the freeway as “wolfpacks”. If you are going a different speed from most everyone else (a little slower or a little faster), you will encounter wolfpacks and then fairly open spaces repeatedly on non-urban freeway stretches. I prefer to take the alternate routes when possible, because social/competitive driving is not my thing.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3145 "2024-12-14T17:22:49Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I think some people just only feel happy if they’re right close to another vehicle. Must Have Company, Don’t Want To Feel Alone Out Here??
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> I don’t understand it, either – I feel much happier on the road if there’s a whole lot of space around me – but it’s the only explanation I can come up with for some people’s behavior.

In high school, there was a class called Youth And The Law. (I think it was a required class.) It was taught by a retired deputy or something. Anyway, he talked about ‘packet drivers’, describing drivers’ habit of grouping together into ‘packets’ on the freeway. He noted that this is unsafe. For one thing, drivers on the left do not move over to allow faster drivers to pass – which just increases the size of the packets and the number of cars in close proximity to each other. Decades on, I still call them ‘packet drivers’

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3146 "2024-12-14T18:10:26Z")

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Yeah, I recognize that “packs of cars on the limited-access road” phenomenon. They’re usually going a bit faster than I am – maybe they’re hanging together partly because they think it reduces the risk of a ticket? because I’m already usually a bit over the limit on that sort of road.

I let them pass me, slowing down a bit while they’re doing it (often I have to slow down to keep anything remotely resembling safe distance, as some will usually cut in right in front of me); and then luxuriate in having space around me until the next pack comes along. In most of the areas I drive in it’ll be a while.

It occurs to me that they’ve sometimes got space between them which would be fine if they were going 25 MPH instead of 75 MPH. Maybe these are people who do most of their driving in city traffic, which often doesn’t even allow enough space for 25 because somebody will just pull in front of you if you try to keep it, and they’re so used to that spacing it doesn’t occur to them to leave more distance at higher speeds?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3147 "2024-12-14T18:29:45Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> They’re usually going a bit faster than I am

For me, they’re always going slower.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> maybe they’re hanging together partly because they think it reduces the risk of a ticket?

Maybe, but…

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> they’re so used to that spacing it doesn’t occur to them to leave more distance at higher speeds?

That’s a good hypothesis.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3148 "2024-12-14T19:54:11Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> After which, they went right back to tailgating me (and each other).

Reminds me of my favorite driving story told by an old coworker. It’s snowy and miserable, he’s tooling along on a fairly major multi lane road, going slow with the bad weather. A guy zips right past him, continues for a bit then loses it, the car spins a couple of times and stops right near a bridge abutment, not hitting anything, luckily. Coworker continues past and sees the guy white knuckle grip and scared to death in his car.

Two minutes later, the guy is zipping right past him again.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3149 "2024-12-14T20:00:03Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I think some people just only feel happy if they’re right close to another vehicle. Must Have Company, Don’t Want To Feel Alone Out Here??

I see this camping as well. You could be the only campers in a campground and the next person to show up with inevitably take a spot next to you. WTF?!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3150 "2024-12-14T21:34:47Z")

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They figure you musta got the _best spot_, so the one next to you must be the next best.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3151 "2024-12-15T02:03:47Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> and there are two other wide open lanes!

Or get over and then slow to the same speed. Get that 40 miles each way back and forth to work every day.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3152 "2024-12-15T10:03:02Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> I think the fact that wings have more fat per bite than most white meat makes it feel more like dark meat.

At KFC wings are Schrodinger’s meat, light or dark, depending. Long before Buffalo wings were a big deal, there I’d order a two-piece light meal and get a breast and a wing. Not liking the wing much (still don’t), the next time I ordered the two-piece dark meal, and got a thigh and a wing.

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**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3153 "2024-12-15T12:51:56Z")

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I’ve seen the same except that after the 2nd zip-past he wound up smacking both the front and rear of his car into the guardrail.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3154 "2024-12-15T13:24:09Z")

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I’ve never had s-called boneless wings. Ever since I had my gallbladder out I can’t eat regular wings, so maybe these could be an adequate replacement?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3155 "2024-12-15T18:07:02Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Ever since I had my gallbladder out I can’t eat regular wings, so maybe these could be an adequate replacement?

If you can eat chicken nuggets you will probably be fine. As others said they’re usually just big chicken nuggets.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3156 "2024-12-15T18:16:03Z")

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I’m curious why not having a gallbladder makes @Alessan unable to eat chicken wings but not other chicken parts.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3157 "2024-12-15T18:21:57Z")

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More grease/fat in an actual wing vs something as processed as a chicken nugget?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3158 "2024-12-15T18:27:27Z")

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That may be it.

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I was also thinking that the wing meat has a tendency to be kind of stringy and chewy, while other pieces might be easier to digest.

But given the gallbladder’s role in breaking down fats, I assume you’re more correct.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3160 "2024-12-15T18:29:41Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I’m curious why not having a gallbladder makes @Alessan unable to eat chicken wings but not other chicken parts.

Your gallbladder meters out the digestive enzymes for fat. Without it, your digestive tract has a drip directly from your liver. If you eat something fatty, there won’t be enough enzymes travelling with your meal and it will go through much faster.

On the up side, your body will adjust, but mine took more than a decade.

And, yes, the fat in a chicken is mostly just under the skin. Because the wings have a high skin to meat ratio, they’re fattier than other portions.

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