# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3161 "2024-12-15T18:30:11Z")

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Ironic that Jack Sprat can’t eat sprat, as they’re too oily.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3162 "2024-12-15T18:38:14Z")

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I did not know that.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3163 "2024-12-15T20:05:53Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> And, yes, the fat in a chicken is mostly just under the skin. Because the wings have a high skin to meat ratio, they’re fattier than other portions.

Boneless “wings” should definitely not have that problem.

On the other hand, if you’re looking for the experience of eating chicken wings without the medical consequences, you’ll probably be disappointed. I’ve never eaten boneless wings that were anything like eating bone-in wings.

Still, one advantage of eating them is that they have a higher proportion of meat to breading than a standard nugget, so may be even less of a problem for you than even regular nuggets (since the breading can absorb oil/fat, and presumably these would then have less of it).

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3164 "2024-12-15T21:03:28Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> > Amairani Salinas was 32 weeks pregnant with her fourth child in 2023 when doctors at a Texas hospital discovered that her baby no longer had a heartbeat. As they prepped her for an emergency cesarean section, they gave her midazolam, a benzodiazepine commonly prescribed to keep patients calm. A day later, the grieving mother was cradling her stillborn daughter when a social worker stopped by her room to deliver another devastating blow: Salinas was being reported to child welfare authorities. A drug test had turned up traces of benzodiazepine — the very medication that staff had administered before wheeling her into surgery.
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> [Hospitals report women prescribed childbirth drugs to child welfare](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/11/pregnant-hospital-drug-test-medicine/76804299007/)

Is it the fact the state is Texas any factor here?

Were these poor women?

I also suspect this involves poorly written laws that never took into account the fact that patients at hospitals receive medications. _Clearly_ anything in a pregnant woman’s system must be illicit, right? Right?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3165 "2024-12-15T21:10:41Z")

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No, the same thing happens in states with liberal abortion laws, like New York or Massachusetts. One bit from the article, “In New York, a mother with no history of drug use lost custody of her toddler and newborn for five months after she tested positive for fentanyl that the hospital had given her in her epidural.”

Perhaps some personal injury attorney could pursue a class-action lawsuit against the health systems that are responsible for this bullshit?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3166 "2024-12-15T21:13:34Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I do NOT understand people who ride your butt even when you’ve slowed _way_ down… and there are two other wide open lanes!

I’ve been told by more than one child of an alcoholic that when mommy or daddy was completely plastered but still felt a need to drive they’d ride the bumper of the vehicle ahead of them as a way of staying on the road.

Can’t vouch for that, but it’s another possible reason I suppose.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3167 "2024-12-15T21:17:17Z")

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Not the sort of driver that I want on my bumper.

– not that I want anybody tailgating me; but if they’re additionally otherwise incompetent to drive, I _really_ don’t want them that close to me.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3168 "2024-12-15T21:33:02Z")

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At this late point in my life, if someone tailgates me I pull over and let them zoom by. Much safer to have them ahead of me than behind.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3169 "2024-12-15T21:57:40Z")

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Last time I had someone following me so close I couldn’t see their headlights, I just took my foot off the gas and let my car coast to a slowdown. Eventually they just passed me.

I figured that of all the possible things I could do, that was the option that had the lowest chance of a wreck.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3170 "2024-12-15T22:24:20Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> At this late point in my life, if someone tailgates me I pull over and let them zoom by.

I do that a lot too.

Once the tailgater was a police car. They promptly pulled me over and I spent a while attempting to say politely “I don’t want you sitting so close on my ass, you were tailgating me!” I just kept repeating “I thought you wanted to go faster” until he finally gave up trying to find something nefarious about pulling over to let the traffic behind you go by.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3171 "2024-12-16T00:47:33Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Last time I had someone following me so close I couldn’t see their headlights, I just took my foot off the gas and let my car coast to a slowdown. Eventually they just passed me.

That’s what I’ve always done. As long as I’m in the ‘slow’ lane and going at least the speed limit, just start slowing down and eventually they go around (barring them planning to take the next exit). I’d rather get flipped off as they race past me then get rear ended when they’re not paying attention.  
What I always think is funny is when there’s not that much traffic and as soon as they pass me, they _immediately_ race up to the next car and proceed to exactly the same thing. Right down to getting mad that they’re stuck behind another slow car that they had no reason to get behind in the first place.

In high school I knew someone that was driving her dad’s SUV. She got pulled over and when the cop finally came up to her window, he let her know she was free to go, he was pulling over the person driving (a low to the ground car) so close behind her, she didn’t even know he was there.

One thing I worry about now is that cars with regenerative braking will turn on the brake lights (depending on other things, I know) when you lift your foot off the accelerator. My concern is that the person behind me, especially if they’re getting too close, will think I’m brake checking them and get angry.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3172 "2024-12-16T00:53:06Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > At this late point in my life, if someone tailgates me I pull over and let them zoom by.
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> I do that a lot too.

Something I posted in 2007:

> Years ago I was driving a Ford Bronco with a plow on it. After getting really sick of people driving so damn close to me (I did alot of driving on long country type roads) I figured out a trick. I parked about 20 feet from another parked car and aimed my plow lights into the rear view mirror of that car. Now when someone was really getting on my nerves I just pulled over on the shoulder to let them pass and turned on my plow lights. Now they had to spend the next few miles with lights right in the mirror. But that was a while ago. Now I just slow down.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3173 "2024-12-16T01:08:28Z")

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While driving in rural areas around here, in the non-flat areas, I periodically see signs warning “_Do Not Pass Snowplows on the Right_” and think, really? _Really?_ They are the areas that want to secede into Rubestate next door, and I am starting to think, yeah, no loss there.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3174 "2024-12-16T03:59:24Z")

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Alas and unfortunately last year I went from an interstate to a one lane rather winding road and as I did so I thought “you know that person behind is a bit too close”. Unfortunately I was correct, a little later someone in front of me wanted to take a left at an I slowed down and stopped as required and the person behind me ran in to me. Fortunately for me, I just really damaged my rear bumper but not much else, unfortunately for the person following me, it damaged their car so much it had to get towed.

`//i\\`

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3175 "2024-12-16T04:26:52Z")

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I follow the person in front of me by around 5 seconds when I can, so, when they are making a turn, I often only have to slow down a little and not actually stop. If I have bumper glue, I will widen the forward gap even more.  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My friend had an incident in which she had to stop so hard on a wet road that she ended up doing a 360. Some while later, the guy behind the guy behind her tried to claim that she was the cause of the accident in which he rear-ended the guy behind her (who also had to stop pretty hard). I am doubting he succeeded in passing it off on her.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3176 "2024-12-16T19:14:33Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> One thing I worry about now is that cars with regenerative braking will turn on the brake lights (depending on other things, I know) when you lift your foot off the accelerator. My concern is that the person behind me, especially if they’re getting too close, will think I’m brake checking them and get angry.

With our Bolt, I’ve not seen the brake light come on when I take my foot off the gas - only when I use the regenerative brake paddle.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3177 "2024-12-16T19:36:43Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> One thing I worry about now is that cars with regenerative braking will turn on the brake lights (depending on other things, I know) when you lift your foot off the accelerator.

That’s one of my complaints about my Tesla 3–I can’t easily tell if my brake lights are on. Theoretically the tiny picture on the dash screen animates the taillights, but that’s not useful when trying to focus on the road.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3178 "2024-12-16T19:52:50Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> With our Bolt, I’ve not seen the brake light come on when I take my foot off the gas - only when I use the regenerative brake paddle.

Alec/Technology Connections did a video about brake lights and regen braking. I beleive he drives (or drove, at the time) a Bolt and had an issue with the brake lights not coming on. IIRC his video may have even started a recall to get it fixed.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/U0YW7x9U5TQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Electric cars prove we need to rethink brake lights") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YW7x9U5TQ)

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> That’s one of my complaints about my Tesla 3–I can’t easily tell if my brake lights are on.

I don’t think I can see mine either. If I’m curious I try to watch the windshield of the car behind me.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3179 "2024-12-16T19:56:41Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> > [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> > With our Bolt, I’ve not seen the brake light come on when I take my foot off the gas - only when I use the regenerative brake paddle.
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> Alec/Technology Connections did a video about brake lights and regen braking. I beleive he drives (or drove, at the time) a Bolt and had an issue with the brake lights not coming on. IIRC his video may have even started a recall to get it fixed.

Maybe not a recall, but at least a CR article/investigation was started because of his video.

> **[Brake Lights Can Fail to Provide Fair Warning on Some Electric Vehicles -...](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/brake-lights-can-fail-to-provide-fair-warning-on-some-evs-a9533519285/)**
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> In Consumer Reports' tests, the brake light on some Genesis, Hyundai, and Kia EVs don’t always illuminate as the vehicle decelerates during regenerative braking.

> After evaluating more than a dozen EVs in our fleet, Consumer Reports’ testing shows that the brake lights on some EVs from [Hyundai](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/hyundai/), [Kia](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/kia/), and [Genesis](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/genesis/) do not illuminate as the car rapidly decelerates during one-pedal driving—that is, unless the driver takes their foot fully off the accelerator pedal.

And some makers fixed it:  
[https://www.autoblog.com/features/kia-hyundai-genesis-one-pedal-braking](https://www.autoblog.com/features/kia-hyundai-genesis-one-pedal-braking)

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3180 "2024-12-16T20:01:49Z")

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I’d just like to issue a minor pitting of whoever wrote this headline for one of my local TV news stations;

“These new Washington crime and justice laws go into effect Jan. 1”

[https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/state-politics/new-crime-justice-laws-jan-1/281-6836a038-f1fc-493e-a83d-9f90bf50857a](https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/state-politics/new-crime-justice-laws-jan-1/281-6836a038-f1fc-493e-a83d-9f90bf50857a)

What kind of laws are they? CRIME LAWS, of course! AND justice laws!

You know, as opposed to the other kind of laws that don’t have anything to do with crime or justice.

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