# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 160
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3181 "2024-12-16T20:04:52Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > With our Bolt, I’ve not seen the brake light come on when I take my foot off the gas - only when I use the regenerative brake paddle. In my 2023 Bolt I drive in one-pedal mode and the brake light comes on if deceleration is more than 0.1g regardless of the reason – hydraulic or dynamic braking – and comes (or stays) on when it is at a dead stop. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3182 "2024-12-17T05:05:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What kind of laws are they? CRIME LAWS, of course! AND justice laws! Looks like KING 5 is leaning on ChatGPT to write article titles. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3183 "2024-12-17T14:18:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What kind of laws are they? CRIME LAWS, of course! AND justice laws! > > You know, as opposed to the other kind of laws that don’t have anything to do with crime or justice. Well, there are all the administrative laws about regulating the insurance industry, or allowable percetnages of VOCs in paint, or the number of parking spaces required per square foot of retail space or … The total body of state law on everything else far exceeds the amount directed at what a layperson would describe as “crime”. Or even “CRIME”. 😉 I get your point about the f-ed up message it sends. But the reality is that for most of us, a change in e.g. car insurance regulation is going to matter far more than e.g. a change in the definitions or penalties of e.g. robbery or an addition to the list of crimes defined as hate crimes. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3184 "2024-12-17T20:01:07Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I get your point about the f-ed up message it sends. It’s more of a quibble about bad writing. “These New Laws Take Effect January 1” conveys the information more elegantly and without adding superfluous words. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3185 "2024-12-17T20:10:10Z")
Congressional Democrats had a choice today for who to elect as ranking member on the Oversight Committee, one of the most powerful and influential committees in the House, and one which its current chairman, Jim Jordan, has used to great effect to go after Trump’s enemies. They could have chosen an energetic young firebrand who’s extremely popular with young voters nationwide and is likely to be a presidential candidate someday. Or they could have chosen a septuagenarian who was just diagnosed with an extremely painful form of cancer that has an 80% chance of killing him within the next five years. They chose the cancer patient and then took to the media to talk about how young he is. > **['Quote of the day': Democrat mocked after calling cancer-stricken 74-year-old...](https://www.rawstory.com/don-beyer/)** > > A Democratic congressman raised eyebrows by touting the youthfulness of a colleague who beat out Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) for a coveted committee seat.Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA) defeated the 35-year-old New York Democrat in a vote to... The baby boomers are going to drag this country into the grave with them. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3186 "2024-12-17T20:23:38Z")
OTOH … If the job is essentially un-doable and utterly unproductive in the face of massive R obstruction, better to sacrifice one of the doomed by giving it to him rather than have an up-and-comer be forever tarred as a failure in the same no-hope role. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3187 "2024-12-17T23:06:55Z")
From what I’m reading, what happened is that Pelosi endorsed the sick old dying man because AOC wants to ban congresspeople from insider trading, I.e. the reason Pelosi has a net worth of $300 million. Her and her cohort of self-serving gerontocrats will be clinging to power even once they’re on life support. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3188 "2024-12-18T00:31:51Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > AOC wants to ban congresspeople from insider trading, I.e. the reason Pelosi has a net worth of $300 million. > > Her and her cohort of self-serving gerontocrats will be clinging to power even once they’re on life support. So blame them for corruption, not for being old. Or are you under the impression that young people aren’t as corrupt as old people? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3189 "2024-12-18T00:35:37Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > So blame them for corruption, not for being old. Can’t I blame them for both? > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Or are you under the impression that young people aren’t as corrupt as old people? The last two progressives we sent to the Senate immediately turned into Diet Republicans the second they got a taste of that sweet sweet lobbyist payola, so clearly not. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3190 "2024-12-18T00:39:04Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Can’t I blame them for both? Sure, if you hate old people on principle, I can’t stop you. It’s a free country. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3191 "2024-12-18T01:27:37Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > It’s a free country. Who told you _that?_ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3192 "2024-12-18T01:40:43Z")
It _was_. Things change. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3193 "2024-12-18T02:18:02Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > It’s a free country. For now. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3194 "2024-12-18T02:27:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Who told you _that?_ If it’s free then why have I been paying rent for so long? (They call it “taxes”.) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3195 "2024-12-18T02:40:50Z")
If it’s free, why can’t I take a vacation in Cuba? If it’s free, why can’t women have authority over their own bodies? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3196 "2024-12-18T03:17:11Z")
Maybe it’s “free” like “caffeine free”; not defined by what it has, but what it _doesn’t_. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3197 "2024-12-18T03:43:16Z")
The capacity for embarassment? > [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > So blame them for corruption, not for being old. > > Can’t I blame them for both? I would have no problem with an “Establishment” senior citizen who is a Wily Old Fox who has forgotten more things than the whole Republican bench ever learned and will gum up the works for the GOP majority and make Jordan & Co. sweat it and be miserable at every step of their “owning the libs” effort. However I _ **don’t** _ know Connolly well enough to know if he is one or not. I lean to “not” and wish to be proved wrong. At the same time, considering what’s at stake, maybe it’s not the time to bring up hitting the Old Establishment in their pocketbooks. Needs doing, but right now there are other things that need stopping such as the very weaponizing of the oversight process. Still it IS dirty pool if Pelosi indeed pulled the levers to protect the cash flow. “Normal” dirty pool, sure, but still, come on, let go, Nancy… ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3198 "2024-12-18T04:38:15Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > It’s a free country. > > Who told you _that?_ Sorry, too subtle and sideways I guess. I was riffing off a thread in IMHO. [“It’s a free country”](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-s-a-free-country/1011608). Just forget I said it. Although I don’t believe anyone has come up with a reliable way to make someone stop hating a group of people on principle, which is what that was about. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3199 "2024-12-18T11:39:49Z")
Thanks for the explanation; I’d never seen that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3200 "2024-12-18T16:09:16Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Although I don’t believe anyone has come up with a reliable way to make someone stop hating a group of people on principle… I don’t think it is about “hating” old people. I think it is about Dems realizing that they need to change. Clinton lost to Trump. Harris lost to Trump. Biden beat Trump but, at the same time, Trump got the second most votes in history (second only to Biden). What have Dems done to change? Nothing really and here we are with more of the same. Keep young people out (this really looks like Pelosi has a thing against AOC) and put the old people in, as always. It is not about hating old people. It is about changing the party and getting young people more engaged. Young people who, while still liberal, moved in greater numbers to Trump this time around. Not a winning trend. Dems need all of them and more. “Business as usual” is not a winning strategy. The last three elections have shown that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=159) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=161)