# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3561 "2025-01-12T21:58:29Z")

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> [@icon](#):
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> Alas, it has been my experience that martial arts tends to attract the more conservative crowd that is apt to be intolerant of ‘others’.

I’ve seen it both ways.

The vast majority of modern martial arts originate from outside of the US. So it depends on how a teacher approaches it.

When I studied Karate, it was very Americanized. There was zero emphasis on culture or tradition. It was 100% about physical training. This is an environment that fosters right wing thought. (Not that I recall any of it at the time, but if it happened it wouldn’t be out of place.)

When I studied Kung Fu, there was a massive emphasis on culture and tradition. We saluted a picture of my Sifu’s Sifu (my grandmaster) who was from China, every time we arrived at the studio and when we left. We were taught the origin of the styles we learned. It was very respectful toward its Chinese origins.

(Not that it mattered that one was Karate and the other was Kung Fu, it was just about the approaches each teacher took.)

Or another way to look at it is to think of the original _Karate Kid_ film. The Cobra Kai dojo was very right wing and Americanized. “Mercy is for the weak” might as well be a MAGA slogan. While the relationship between Mr. Miyagi and Daniel was one of mutual respect for each other and their different backgrounds and cultures. Very left wing.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3562 "2025-01-12T22:07:48Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I thought you weren’t supposed to talk about fight club.
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> > The tech billionaire credits martial arts for his change of heart when it comes to masculinity, telling Rogan that having something to do with his male friends where they can “beat each other” has been a “positive experience” for him.

So Mark Zuckerberg’s masculinity was threatened until he took up martial arts? So marrying a classmate from Harvard and having three children with her wasn’t enough? Founding a company and website used by billions of people wasn’t enough? A fortune of roughly 200 billion dollars wasn’t enough? I have none of those and _I’m_ secure enough in my masculinity.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3563 "2025-01-12T22:11:28Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I have none of those and _I’m_ secure enough in my masculinity.

The fact that you’re secure in your masculinity is the reason why you haven’t felt the need to do all that shit in a futile effort to prove something to yourself.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3564 "2025-01-12T23:04:55Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> wasn’t enough?

I think his hairdo has a lot to do with it.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3565 "2025-01-13T00:26:45Z")

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I’m secure enough in my masculinity and I’m not male.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3566 "2025-01-13T00:43:46Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> I think his hairdo has a lot to do with it.

A guy who _voluntarily_ looks like Richard Simmons going all MR is incongruous. He needs to deal with his own issues before trying to “correct” everyone else.

Money clearly makes a person stupid. I would not be surprized to hear “_zuck off_” become common parlance.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3567 "2025-01-13T00:48:18Z")

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I’m not secure in my masculinity and that makes me secure, or something.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3568 "2025-01-13T01:43:30Z")

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Google AI says that the Hitachi Magic Wand, a decades-old popular and well-known vibrator, is “a creative way for parents to identify behavioral changes they want to make” and is especially helpful for “long-time WIC clients”.

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:vcepp6trx4vpe5ourxso4tjl/bafkreiduv6kzyeojtz5lp6tlgbk7aom5yex5cye6oytg7jtezk6mbnvsli@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:vcepp6trx4vpe5ourxso4tjl/bafkreiduv6kzyeojtz5lp6tlgbk7aom5yex5cye6oytg7jtezk6mbnvsli@jpeg)

> **[Google's AI Overview Tells Adults to Use 'Magic Wand' With Kids](https://www.404media.co/google-ai-overview-search-magic-wand/)**
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> Google's AI search feature is telling people searching for answers about using vibrating sex toys during pregnancy that they should consider it for counseling children, instead.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3569 "2025-01-13T01:51:59Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> going all MR

Can you explain what this expression means?

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3570 "2025-01-13T02:05:05Z")

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Men’s Rights, maybe?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3571 "2025-01-13T02:44:31Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > [@eschereal](#):
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> > going all MR
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> Can you explain what this expression means?

Thank you for asking that.

> [@Zyada](#):
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> Men’s Rights, maybe?

Thank you for answering it. The Two-Letter Acronym\* is just _so_ versatile, I couldn’t be sure.

\*Hey, is there a three-letter acronym for two-letter acronym? I feel like 2LA would work better than TLA. TLA is so bound up with Three-Letter Acronym that it would just be too confusing.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3572 "2025-01-13T15:17:32Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> Men’s Rights, maybe?

Around this Board what I more often see is “MRA” - “Men’s Rights Activist/Advocate.”

But Zuck’s deal sounds to me more like a degeneration if the “Iron John” trend from back at the end of last century. Sort of a Tim Allen caricature from when his schtick was funny.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3573 "2025-01-14T07:24:49Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Sort of a Tim Allen caricature from when his schtick was funny.

Wait! Tim Allen was once funny?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3574 "2025-01-14T09:14:45Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Tim Allen was once funny?

Yes, he was. I saw him doing stand-up on TV years before _Home Improvement_ and his routines were hilarious. I still remember when he used to tell stories of his grandpa who he called “terminally cool” because he had a tremor that made him shake like a guy at a club bopping to a dance beat. And he did an impression of his grandpa getting pissed off at a modern car that talked to him.

“The door is ajar. The door is ajar.”

“Yeah… And my foot’s a duck!”

Just thinking about it cracks me up.

Bob Saget was also really funny doing standup back in the day, though his humor was also pretty raunchy at times.

Both comedians got on family-friendly sitcoms and had to remake their image to be more universally appealing and in the process stopped being funny.

(Though Bob Saget’s brief part in _Half Baked_ was funny the way his standup used to be before _Full House_.)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3575 "2025-01-14T13:03:54Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Though Bob Saget’s brief part in _Half Baked_ was funny the way his standup used to be before _Full House_

I can’t find a clip, but he also had a small roll on a show called Huff. IIRC, he played an actor referred to as (or maybe on a show called) “America’s Favorite Dad” while that character’s real life persona was much raunchier than you’d guess based on how he portrays himself on camera.  
In other words, he was basically playing himself. Danny Tanner in front of the camera but a totally different person off camera (even the Full House bloopers get dirtier than you’d expect).

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3576 "2025-01-14T14:23:54Z")

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Bob Saget was still pretty blue after full house. He used to do warnings before his act, because people would bring their children.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3577 "2025-01-14T17:02:25Z")

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“The Aristocrats!”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3578 "2025-01-15T04:31:26Z")

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Tim Allen was at his peak in the role of Jason Nesmith / Capt. Peter Quincy Taggart.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3579 "2025-01-15T13:28:25Z")

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nevermind - didn’t realize the age of the post I was commenting on.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3580 "2025-01-15T20:14:45Z")

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Turns out that when you get rid of loss prevention, lock all your merchandise in glass cages that have to be opened by an employee, and also cut staffing hours to the bone so there’s never an employee to be found when you need one, it’s hard to sell stuff.

> **[Walgreens CEO describes drawback of anti-shoplifting strategy: ‘When you lock...](https://fortune.com/2025/01/14/walgreens-ceo-anti-shoplifting-backfired-locks-reduce-sales/)**
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> Walgreens' CEO talked about the flip side of investing in increased security on a recent earnings call.

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