# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3721 "2025-02-03T21:47:40Z")

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Now watch that become the next “challenge trend” on the socials…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Zyada](#):
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> Does anyone else thinks she looks like a hostage?

I just find it ironic that her last name is literally “censor I”.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3723 "2025-02-03T23:38:30Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Now watch that become the next “challenge trend” on the socials…

Would be … interesting.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3724 "2025-02-04T00:09:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m going to spoilertag the link because the photos, though they have black bars on them,

Well, of course. They don’t call her “Censori” for nothing.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3725 "2025-02-04T00:41:24Z")

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To me, her expression doesn’t look bland. I wasn’t kidding when I said she looks like a hostage to me. Or maybe an abused woman, like she’s trying to look ok when she is actually afraid she will screw up.  
I just watched some video. I still think she was at least an unwilling participant

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3726 "2025-02-04T00:49:55Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> . I still think she was at least an unwilling participant

I think you’re right. Considering Kanye’s history and known mental problems I wouldn’t be surprised if this stunt (along with their entire marriage) is part of some sick effort on his part to get back at Kim for leaving him.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3727 "2025-02-04T00:53:02Z")

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Forget where I stole this from: Climate change is the opposite of Kanye West; we know we should be paying attention to it, but we still don’t.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3728 "2025-02-04T00:53:57Z")

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ETA: @Zyada 3 posts up.

She’s a grown-up. Perhaps one with confused thinking or ego problems. She jumped into that probably-toxic pool of her own volition.

I can readily see her as somebody making a foolish mistake. I have a hard time seeing her as a victim.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3729 "2025-02-04T00:59:12Z")

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There have been a lot of women and men who didn’t realize how toxic the pool was until they were already in it. Narcissists are especially good at convincing others that their reputation caused by gossip spread by people who hate them rather than their own actions.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3730 "2025-02-04T01:08:09Z")

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Agree completely with the first sentence.

Do not understand the second sentence at all. Seems like maybe a couple words got skipped. That sure happens sometimes when I’m posting

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3731 "2025-02-04T01:24:12Z")

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I think they mean that narcissists are really good at persuading people that any bad press is due to envy or dislike, not their own toxic crap.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3732 "2025-02-04T01:26:50Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> narcissists are really good at persuading people that any bad press is due to envy or dislike, not their own toxic crap.

See for example Donald Trump and his imaginary army of “haters and losers trying to make me look bad”.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3733 "2025-02-04T01:34:12Z")

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He’s right that there’s an army of people who hate him most thoroughly.

He’s quite wrong about why. And whether he or they are the loser in the moral equation.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3734 "2025-02-04T01:45:08Z")

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And yet there are plenty of people who believe him

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3735 "2025-02-04T02:02:45Z")

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It was optimistic to believe only one is born every minute

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3736 "2025-02-04T02:55:58Z")

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Well, that was said when the population was much smaller. I wonder what the comparable rate would be now?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3737 "2025-02-04T03:07:39Z")

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Turns out that quote is probably apocryphal. But is definitely dates from at least the 1800s if not before. See **[There’s a sucker born every minute - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute)**.

If we assume it applies only to the USA, and further that it dates from 1800 (see wiki cite above) the US population then was roughly 5M. And is now ~340M, so call it ~60x as large.

So with a bit of poetic license to cover for creative rounding, the current phrase ought to be “There’s a sucker born every second.”

I especially like the aside in the wiki article that an early form of the saying was “a sucker born every minute, and two more to con him.” The point being that dishonest conmen are even more common than dumb marks.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3738 "2025-02-04T03:16:37Z")

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These days, the Republican party seems to be living by W. C. Fields’ codicil, “It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money.”

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3739 "2025-02-04T03:23:56Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> ETA: @Zyada 3 posts up.
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> She’s a grown-up. Perhaps one with confused thinking or ego problems. She jumped into that probably-toxic pool of her own volition.
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> I can readily see her as somebody making a foolish mistake. I have a hard time seeing her as a victim.

I’m not sure if I got the full flavor of what you meant. An adult can be a victim, even if they entered into something as a foolish mistake, ostensibly of their own volition.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3740 "2025-02-04T16:28:38Z")

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Have you _met_ any babies? They’re _all_ suckers.

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