# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/401 "2024-02-18T21:43:25Z")
You’re not helping! 😁 I’ve read the explanation of that many times, and can barely see the meaning when fully expanded long form. I had hoped that your clever substitution would clarify matters and maybe I could remember the joke as anything other than just 8 consecutive syntactic “buffaloes” devoid of semantic content. But even with your capitalization and the bison vs buffalo distinction laid out in plain sight, it’s still gibberish to my feeble parser. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/402 "2024-02-18T21:53:46Z")
Buffalo bison Buffalo bison bully bully Buffalo bison. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/403 "2024-02-18T21:55:38Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PSeRX5XBhBM/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PSeRX5XBhBM/maxresdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/404 "2024-02-18T22:14:20Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > it’s still gibberish The bison substition is every time it’s used as a noun. The capitalization (for the city) is every time it’s used as an adjective. Lower case buffalo is a verb - or as substituted with “bully” by @fachverwirrt. The paraphrase would be: Bison from Buffalo that [other] bison from Buffalo bully [in turn] bully [yet other] bison from Buffalo. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/405 "2024-02-18T22:23:55Z")
Buzzard: [![](https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7e0da75/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x2000+0+0/resize/1760x1174!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F3%2F08%2Fshutterstock_1088669861%20%281%29.jpg) ](https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7e0da75/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x2000+0+0/resize/1760x1174!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F3%2F08%2Fshutterstock_1088669861%20%281%29.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/406 "2024-02-18T22:26:06Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Those are vultures. Buzzards are > [@Chronos](#): > > Buzzard: I believe the word buzzard is used to refer to (at least) two completely different species. [Turkey vulture - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_vulture) [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Turkey_vulture_%28Cathartes_aura%29_Orange_Walk.jpg/1024px-Turkey_vulture_%28Cathartes_aura%29_Orange_Walk.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Turkey_vulture_%28Cathartes_aura%29_Orange_Walk.jpg/1024px-Turkey_vulture_%28Cathartes_aura%29_Orange_Walk.jpg) [Common buzzard - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_buzzard) [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Steppe_buzzard_%28Buteo_buteo_vulpinus%29.jpg/1024px-Steppe_buzzard_%28Buteo_buteo_vulpinus%29.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Steppe_buzzard_%28Buteo_buteo_vulpinus%29.jpg/1024px-Steppe_buzzard_%28Buteo_buteo_vulpinus%29.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/407 "2024-02-18T22:38:44Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > The bison substition is every time it’s used as a noun. > The capitalization (for the city) is every time it’s used as an adjective. > Lower case buffalo is a verb - or as substituted with “bully” by @fachverwirrt. > > The paraphrase would be: > > Bison from Buffalo that [other] bison from Buffalo bully [in turn] bully [yet other] bison from Buffalo. Oh, I fully get the decode when written out that way; I just can’t intuit the changes in POV even with all the signposts added. So although I can go from long form decode to the raw text I can’t go the other way. It’s an odd linguistic blind spot. But thanks for the attempt at enlightenment. Somebody will benefit from it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/408 "2024-02-19T00:58:24Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I believe the word buzzard is used to refer to (at least) two completely different species. It’s only a regional nickname in a couple of places for the turkey vulture, it’s not officially called a “buzzard” in any sense. It’s a vulture. I think that was the point. The other species is actually a buzzard. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/409 "2024-02-19T01:05:09Z")
Except the colloquial name is so strongly associated that _Buteo_ species in America are actually called hawks, or in wildlife reporting just called “buteo” to remove any ambiguity, and the turkey vulture is the first thing I think of when somebody mentions “buzzards”. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/410 "2024-02-19T01:24:20Z")
I mean, this is why we have Linnaean names. Everything else is subject to regional variation. That bird isn’t officially called a “buzzard”, because its only official name is Cathartes aura. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/411 "2024-02-19T01:29:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Everything else is subject to regional variation. That bird isn’t officially called a “buzzard”, because its only official name is Cathartes aura. There are “official” English names too, in the U.S. governed by the American Ornithological Society. You may recall the recent decision to change the names of all birds named after people - this refers to the English names, not the binomial. > **[The American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird...](https://americanornithology.org/about/english-bird-names-project/)** > > The AOS will change all English bird names currently named after people within its geographic jurisdiction—one step in an effort to address past wrongs & engage more people in the enjoyment, protection & study of birds > **[Bird Names for Birds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_Names_for_Birds)** > > Bird Names for Birds is a campaign to change the common names of American birds named after people, and to redress the recognition in ornithology of figures with racist or colonial pasts. Launched in June 2020 by ornithologists Jordan E. Rutter and Gabriel Foley with a public petition, in the midst of the George Floyd protests and in the aftermath of an incident in Central Park that paved the way to Black Birders Week, the movement emerged after several years of social activism by multiple Ame ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/412 "2024-02-19T01:52:09Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > You may recall the recent decision to change the names of all birds named after people - this refers to the English names, not the binomial. “Sorry pal, we’re not allowed to call you Larry anymore.” “CAW!!!“ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/413 "2024-02-20T00:34:07Z")
NBC Washington is out there asking the hard questions, like “How come millennials are blowing all their money on things like food instead of investing?” > ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/414 "2024-02-20T01:42:00Z")
It’s the avocado toast all over again! I maintain that at some level, food _is_ an investment. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/415 "2024-02-20T02:18:32Z")
Speaking of [avocado toast](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#Personal_life_and_death): > Granger was born on 29 August 1969 in [Mentone, Victoria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentone,_Victoria),[[17]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-Guardian-Obit-17) to a vegetarian mother and a father who worked as a butcher.[[18]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-irishtimes-23-may-2009-18)[[19]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-19) He was married and had three daughters with his wife Natalie Elliot.[[20]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-sbs-family-27-dec-23-20) > > On 26 December 2023, Granger’s family announced that he had died on Christmas Day at a London hospital, at age 54.[[21]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-21) He died from cancer after having been diagnosed many months previously.[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-smh-cause-27-dec-23-22)[[23]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Granger#cite_note-23) ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/416 "2024-02-20T04:14:45Z")
I had no idea! Does this mean we should be avoiding avocado toast? (Happy SDMB anniversary!) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/417 "2024-02-20T06:02:12Z")
What do you know? It is my board anniversary! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/418 "2024-02-20T06:09:39Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > Does this mean we should be avoiding avocado toast? I hope not, it’s fucking delicious. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/419 "2024-02-20T08:22:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I hope not, it’s fucking delicious. Do you want to be a millionaire or not? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/420 "2024-02-20T15:34:07Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Do you want to be a millionaire or not? I know. Spending a buck on an avocado a couple of times a month can really add up! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=22)