# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 214
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4261 "2025-03-31T12:27:30Z")
It’s a shame there’s no colony overseas they could transport them to. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4262 "2025-03-31T12:33:56Z")
Mars! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4263 "2025-03-31T13:56:59Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > As the judge pointed out, this woman was in public housing, provided by the government. If she was a fair dinkum SovCit, she would have refused all government interference in her life. 😛 Nah, she’d just say “I ‘hereby renounce and reject my former engagement’” with the public housing authority and that would make it alright. She’s up for parole in just a few days and can cook(er) up more nonsense then. Amazing how sov cits are so addicted to their nutty beliefs that they’re willing to lose their livelihoods, homes and families for the sake of them. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4264 "2025-03-31T16:10:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > SovCits are two-faced with the best of them. The whole point of being a SovCit is having these weird made-up rules to justify **ANYTHING**. She’d probably have some argument that the federal citizen Jane Doe may be receiving aid, but the sovereign citizen JANE DOE has not entered into joinder with the federal government and is not subject to its laws. Or some schizophrenic bullshit like that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4265 "2025-04-01T00:37:46Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@kambuckta](#): > > > > As the judge pointed out, this woman was in public housing, provided by the government. _If she was a fair dinkum SovCit, she would have refused all government interference in her life._ 😛 > > The judge is wrong. SovCits are two-faced with the best of them. I have the impression that the italicized text is commentary from **kambukta** , rather than a continuation of the judge’s remarks. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4266 "2025-04-01T00:42:23Z")
You’re right. Though I have seen a number of times that a SovCit is on some form assistance, housing, etc. while claiming the govt. has no jurisdiction over them. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4267 "2025-04-01T00:50:57Z")
What is wrong with you people? Clearly, the Australian corporation is violating this woman’s Constitutional and Declaration of Independence rights! /Channeling my inner SovCit. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4268 "2025-04-01T03:33:52Z")
Well, Алиса Розенбаум railed heroically against the government in her numerous anarco-nihilistic (“objectivist”) novels but at the end went on Medicare, unapologetically. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4269 "2025-04-01T03:51:41Z")
Because she was and continued to pay taxes to support it (involuntarily, at least theoretically)? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4270 "2025-04-01T04:14:37Z")
But in the end, she decided that her philosophy was utter bullshit when she faced draining _her_ resources. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4271 "2025-04-01T04:21:49Z")
She didn’t have a choice about whether to contribute to the plan. Her philosophy was to not force people to contribute to social welfare programs; once forced to contribute, it was not hypocrisy to use the service. I don’t know if she used more services than the amount she contributed (and neither does anyone else, I expect). There was no way for her to go by her political philosophy in the country she lived in. Some folks seem to think that she wasn’t entitled to use the service because she was opposed to enforced contributions to social welfare programs, that she should just give up whatever she had paid for and go with private care. I don’t see it myself. Her political philosophy was not remotely realistic, but if you want to attack it, attack it for what it was. It doesn’t make sense to me to rely on arguments from hypocrisy, which don’t work anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4272 "2025-04-01T06:11:26Z")
If someone robs me at gunpoint over my protests, and the cops later find the guy with my property, I’m not a hypocrite for accepting my property back from the cops. If you’re forced to contribute to something against your will, you’re not being a hypocrite by benefiting from the system you are protesting against. Now, if you avoid paying into it while declaring that the system is corrupt which justifies your failure to contribute, but receive benefits like the people who did contribute, **that’s** hypocrisy. And that’s basically what SovCits do. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4273 "2025-04-01T18:02:21Z")
Sov cit batshittery has spread all over the place. In the U.K. there’s “Victoria, the Uncensored Midwife” (formerly The Honest Midwife) who today on the loonies’ favorite social media platform formerly known as Twitter, declared herself a “corporation” and “a living woman”. Lest anyone think it’s an April Fool’s joke, she’s also posted “I don’t pay council tax, gas, electricity, water or tv licence. I poured myself into the Sovereign Project last year and went into the rabbit hole. Not only did I continue to pay during my communication with these people; I was sent to Jacob’s Enforcement for 1 missed payment!” Victoria got in trouble with whatever midwife oversight group there is in the UK, got suspended, and subsequently “walked out” of the NHS and evidently wants to capitalize on her martyrdom, accusing the NHS of “manslaughter” and that they have “blood on their hands”. She’s also antivaccine, because of course she is. \*why going down the rabbit hole is viewed as a positive development remains a mystery. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4274 "2025-04-01T18:25:58Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*why going down the rabbit hole is viewed as a positive development remains a mystery. I’m guessing SovCits understand metaphors as well as they under the law. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4275 "2025-04-01T19:05:22Z")
Not as stupid, but the latest watch from Rolex is called the “Land-Dweller.” That’s a real 4:55 on a Friday afternoon of a name. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4276 "2025-04-01T20:07:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*why going down the rabbit hole is viewed as a positive development remains a mystery. This is what going down the rabbit hole looks like. [![](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/480981612/photo/crisis.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=z5LdDcBbMAjQNzWiVBMwMpRSwPvnW5zDQae3HSqu0Ng=) ](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/480981612/photo/crisis.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=z5LdDcBbMAjQNzWiVBMwMpRSwPvnW5zDQae3HSqu0Ng=) You’re completely blind and deaf to reality and your brain rots away. Also, anyone who runs across you just sees an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4277 "2025-04-01T23:52:06Z")
Next up, the Rolex Oxygen-Metabolizer ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4278 "2025-04-02T00:05:15Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Not as stupid, but the latest watch from Rolex is called the “Land-Dweller.” Well that sure communicates elite status, doesn’t it? So, _they_ are doing the experiment from that other thread about what happens when you run out of sensible model names? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4279 "2025-04-02T00:24:51Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Not as stupid, but the latest watch from Rolex is called the “Land-Dweller.” OK, I had to google it. No. I don’t care for ‘dress watches’. I prefer ‘functional’ watches. This ‘Land-Dweller’ just doesn’t do it for me. I have a non-date Oyster Submariner (1978, bought used), and an Oyster GMT Master II (2001, bought new). I’d _like_ to have an Air-King (stainless steel, blue dial, no numerals). I just like the utilitarian designs. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4280 "2025-04-02T13:55:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Not as stupid, but the latest watch from Rolex is called the “Land-Dweller.” That’s a real 4:55 on a Friday afternoon of a name. They already have the Submariner, and (I just discovered) the Sky-Dweller, so Land-Dweller may have been the best of what was left. The problem is that their naming convention didn’t allow for sufficient options over time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=213) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=215)