# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
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Arguably this one straddles the line between stupid and evil, but there’s a lot of stupid there.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4982 "2025-07-15T00:16:47Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> What. The. Fuck.

Just reminds me of this old _Onion_ article. (Had to use the Wayback Machine because it was deleted a while back.)

> **[Study Reveals: Babies Are Stupid](http://web.archive.org/web/20011125022834/https://www.theonion.com/onion3119/stupidbabies.html)**
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> LOS ANGELES—A surprising new study released Monday by UCLA's Institute For Child Development revealed that human babies, long thought by psychologists to be highly inquisitive and adaptable, are actually extraordinarily stupid.

> According to Institute president Molly Bentley, in an effort to determine infant survival instincts when attacked, the babies were prodded in an aggressive manner with a broken broom handle. Over 90 percent of them, when poked, failed to make even rudimentary attempts to defend themselves. The remaining 10 percent responded by vacating their bowels.

Except of course **that** was satire.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4983 "2025-07-15T01:14:21Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Arguably this one straddles the line between stupid and evil, but there’s a lot of stupid there

And a lot of evil. Daaaaaaaamn.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4984 "2025-07-19T00:58:06Z")

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This is a FAFO classic.

> **[Anti-Woke Dad Who Moved Family to Russia Sent to War Zone](https://www.thedailybeast.com/texan-moved-fam-to-russia-to-flee-wokenow-hes-headed-to-ukraine-front-line/)**
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> Derek Huffman, 46, joined the military with hopes of becoming a Russian citizen. His wife said he was duped into a combat role.

At least he had a chance to shop in those fabulous Moscow supermarkets that Tucker Carlson told us about.

Best American in Russia story since Lee Harvey Oswald.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4985 "2025-07-19T01:11:46Z")

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How can you be duped into doing something that you initiated a great deal of effort to do?

I feel sorry for his family, though.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4986 "2025-07-19T02:03:12Z")

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> **[Blast at training facility kills 3 Los Angeles deputies in one of...](https://apnews.com/article/facility-sheriff-los-angeles-dead-explosion-da7ad1fdc444bbb7d8c14f33b44333e6)**
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> An explosion at a Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department training facility killed three veteran deputies from the arson and explosives unit.

But the Los Angeles Times has the stupid MFer detail:

> The Sheriff’s Department is currently investigating an apartment complex in the 800 block of Bay Street in Santa Monica in connection to the explosion, according to department spokesperson Nicole Nishida. The three deputies killed in the blast responded to a call to assist the Santa Monica Police Department at the complex on Thursday.
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> A grenade was recovered at the Santa Monica apartment complex Thursday, a city police officer told The Times. Michael Kellman, who lives nearby, told [KTLA-TV Channel 5](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/explosion-reported-at-east-l-a-sheriffs-training-center/) **that a tenant called the police after discovering a storage unit with old grenades that had been left by a former tenant — who Kellman said was a veteran.**

> **[Explosion kills 3 L.A. County sheriff’s deputies; Santa Monica apartment...](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-07-18/explosion-la-sheriff-training-facility)**
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> Three deputies were killed Friday in an explosion at the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department’s Biscailuz Center Training Academy in East L.A., the deadliest incident for the agency in more than 160 years.

We have several veterans at Straight Dope. Anyone have some live grenades as a keepsake?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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I was in the navy so I didn’t have access to grenades that go bang but did for thermite grenades and also slabs. Both were used to destroy classified documents and equipment. The grenades were cylindrical and about 3-1/2 inches in diameter. I was told the army developed them to destroy guns’ usefulness. Put one in the breech and pull the pin. A couple minutes later you have a breech what won’t close any more. We used them in document-destroying kits, six inches of documents in a steel drum, a package of oxidizer – potassium permaganate perhaps; I forget – sprinkled on top, six more inches of paper and so on. The grenade was used to touch the whole thing off and it would burn out in about a half hour.

Not actually having any emergencies they would be used once a year or so in a demo but even if I thought I could get away with it, I never had the slightest desire to have one as a keepsake.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> This is a FAFO classic.

Great cite. The headline tells the tale, but the whole article is worth reading. So much stupidity on the part of the guy and his wife. Although I get the impression she’d long ago stopped thinking for herself and was just a parrot for her hubby.

I liked the aside that this rightist was angry about his belief that immigrants to the US don’t serve in the US military. Well that’s because trump terminated that program during his first term.

  

> [@Chronos](#):
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> How can you be duped into doing something that you initiated a great deal of effort to do?

From the article the suggestion is that the recruiter lied about which job he’d be given once in the military. Which is such a cliché in every military in the world that only the stupidest of the stupid MFers could expect anything different from Russian recruiter in wartime.

The only thing I can think is that he somehow thought he was enough of a propaganda coup that he’d get special treatment ordered from on high. And a job with better lifespan prospects. Oops.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4989 "2025-07-19T12:24:35Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> We have several veterans at Straight Dope. Anyone have some live grenades as a keepsake?

A while back I was on my way to my parent’s house and saw the bomb squad down the block from them. When I asked my mom about it, she said they were at [family friend’s] house because they found a grenade in the basement. I remember playing with that grenade as a kid. The older brother had what was, to the best of my knowledge, a real grenade. While the younger brother, as well as myself, were scared of it, even then we _assumed_ it wasn’t live. He also had a rifle with, as I recall, a nail jammed into the barrel (where you’d put the bullet). These were both apparently war ‘souvenirs’ from his grandfather. Though, thinking back, that rifle with the nail in it was probably a .22, so…maybe not from the war. In any case, I was probably 10 years old the last time I saw that stuff and don’t have a clear memory of it.

I remember telling my mom to call her and let her know that grenade was real, but not live, and was basically used as a toy. But then I realized I don’t know for a fact it’s not live, I mean, I can’t believe it would be, but I never saw it opened up. I think she ended up calling to let her know that it was [older brother’s] from when we were kids and she should probably ask him about it.

Related question, that I was going to start a thread about a few days ago:  
What would you do if you found a blasting cap?  
Many years ago, back when I was probably around 16, I found a blasting cap in my parking lot (at my family business). I remember my initial thought was to call the police, but then I figured that would turn into a whole big thing when they send the bomb squad out for something that probably fell off a construction truck. Everything I knew at the time about blasting caps came from documentaries about mining or explosives and with that knowledge, I decided it’s probably safe to handle, so I threw it in the dumpster.

Yes, looking back, I should have called the police since, while it was may have been safe to handle, the dumpster was the wrong place for it. In my mind, at that time, calling the police (and by extension, the bomb squad) seemed like overkill, like calling the fire department because you found an unused road flare laying in the street.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
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> [@PastTense](#):
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> We have several veterans at Straight Dope. Anyone have some live grenades as a keepsake?

No.

I did have some live C-rats and MREs that could provoke a bowel explosion if you weren’t careful. Or, conversely, a total blockage, depending on the dose. 😉

I did have an expended BDU-33. See

> **[Bomb, Practice, BDU-33 (Dummy/Inert)](https://aeroantique.com/products/bomb-practice-bdu-33-dummy-inert?variant=7857780523038)**
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> This is a Cold War/Vietnam War-era BDU-33 Practice Bomb, a 25-pound bomb with a spotting charge that releases a cloud of smoke on impact. The BDU-33 is used to simulate the MK 82 in low drag configuration. It is a small cast-iron and steel...

and

> **[Bomb, 25 lb Practice, BDU-33A/B](https://www.bulletpicker.com/bomb_-25-lb-practice_-bdu-33.html)**
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> Bomb, 25 lb Practice, BDU-33/B, BDU-33A/B Description These bombs are signal generating, impact or impact inertia fired practice/simulated bombs.  The 25 pound practice bomb, BD

In use, the opening in the nose has a small White phosphorus spotting charge screwed in there and there’s a flat pusher plate on the very front. When the bomb’s nose hits [whatever], the pusher plate is mashed aft & fires the charge. The instant burst of white smoke makes it easy to see where it landed. Which is handy for spotting and scoring.

The forward more or less football shaped section is solid cast steel except for the charge passage that runs all the way through it. The aft two sections are all thin steel tubing or sheet metal, also with a hollow along the centerline. The open forward end of the fin assembly is crimped around the cast steel forebody at the factory. When the charge goes off, the smoke spurts out the hollow opening at the rear. Make a very bright very obvious columnar fart of smoke.

Anyhow, one day while I was directing a practice strike on a practice target, a fighter I was controlling dropped this someplace he should not have, doing some damage to range facilities. Since I was strike director, that was my fault. So my “friends” at the range recovered the offending ordnance and presented it to me at the “Who made the dumbest / most noteworthy fuck-up of the month?” meeting.

The fins get mangled on impact, but other than some scuffing, the “warhead” was fine. As designed, the pusher plate was mashed in, but still there. One thing for sure, we _knew_ it was inert.

I later removed the mangled fins and kept the cast steel forebody for about 30 years. It made a dandy doorstop & conversation piece. It went out with the rest of my militaria when I moved from MO to FL.

I’m just glad it didn’t set the bulldozer on fire. 😁

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The only thing I can think is that he somehow thought he was enough of a propaganda coup that he’d get special treatment ordered from on high. And a job with better lifespan prospects. Oops.

[Useful idiot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot), just like our President.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4992 "2025-07-19T15:51:14Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> [Minnesota state senator Nicole Mitchell arrested on suspicion of burglary | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-senator-arrested-legislature-5565424572092b725e2a15c15b73a339)
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> [Actually in this case it may be that a man died and his daughter and the step-mother had big conflicts, so the daughter illegally went into the house to retrieve something.]

> **[Minnesota lawmaker convicted of felony burglary for breaking into estranged...](https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-state-senator-nicole-mitchell-guilty-burglary-696586410ee64866c7711ea0910b836e)**
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> A Minnesota state senator has been convicted of burglary for breaking into her estranged stepmother’s home.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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She should argue, “Why resign? The president is a convicted felon.”

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4994 "2025-07-19T22:58:03Z")

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The MRI guy has die. Uh, died. (Not mentioned here, but you’ve probably heard about him.)

> **[Man dies after being sucked into MRI machine by necklace](https://www.newsweek.com/mri-machine-death-new-york-2101170)**
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> The incident occurred at a medical building in Westbury, New York, the police said.

He was wearing a 20 lb chain with a large lock.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4995 "2025-07-19T23:03:51Z")

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I was wondering if he was going to survive.

People don’t realize how dangerous MRI machines can be, or rather, how dangerous many metals are around one.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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From the story linked:

> She asked the technician to get her husband who was brought into the room. McAllister was wearing a 20-pound chain around his neck with a large lock which he used for weight training.

Why on earth did the technician bring him into the room? The thing must have been visible; and even if it wasn’t, the tech should have asked about any metal on him before bringing him in.

It’s not the guy with the chain who was the stupid one. He might just have been ignorant. But the tech damn well should have known better.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4997 "2025-07-20T00:02:59Z")

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Seriously, holy fuck.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/4998 "2025-07-20T00:10:43Z")

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Also from the linked story:

> His wife, Adrienne Jones-McAllister, told local outlet News 12 that she was getting an MRI scan on her knee and needed help getting up.

So, presumably, the scan was over and she needed help getting up from the platform. Why, then, was the machine still on? I’m seriously confused.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Why, then, was the machine still on?

The magnets are always on.

> **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/m9algh/eli5_why_do_mri_machines_cost_so_much_to_shut_off/)**

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The magnets are always on

Thanks.

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