# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 268
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5341 "2025-08-16T15:53:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It sounds like the lawsuit should be against the organic market Also from the article: > Maddox claims she was unaware of the potential dangers associated with drinking the milk and was allegedly told, when she asked a clerk about a label that “said something to the effect [of] ‘for consumption by animals,’” that it was only “a technical requirement to sell ‘farm milk.’” If that’s what actually happened, then the market is much more at fault than the dairy. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5342 "2025-08-16T15:59:58Z")
If everybody from the government to the consumer just looks at the “animals only” labeling as a cynical ploy to enrich Big Milk, then this is the world you get. Just like the nudge nudge wink wink labeling on so-called nutritional supplements that are actually untested random assortments of chemicals and plant matter. But which _almost_ claim to be useful for some medical condition and also carry the tiny-print disclaimer “not FDA tested or approved” which is the official “get out of jail free” card. Fake regulations fakely complied with by fake companies selling fake products. To gullible consumers who suffer real harms. We’ve spent over a century moving away from that world, admittedly unevenly. And here in 2025 we find ourselves racing headlong towards it with all guns blazing. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5343 "2025-08-16T16:31:35Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Germs are a hoax and the only thing healthier than bacteria laden raw milk is your own morning urine. Your morning urine is more likely to be sterile. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5344 "2025-08-16T16:59:23Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > But then again, this is Florida… Right, so the court will find that it must have been because she accidentally consumed pasteurized milk, and so the whack-job dairy is perfectly innocent, but fine the nearest pasteurized dairy ten million dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5345 "2025-08-16T20:38:40Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Your morning urine is more likely to be sterile. [![](https://i.imgflip.com/37kx2v.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/37kx2v.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5346 "2025-08-16T21:09:37Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That fluffy cow is casual acquaintance, at best. If you try to make fluffy cow friend, ouch. Depends a good deal on the particular cow. Some domestic cattle are quite friendly. (Watch out for your buttons.) Others are not. Always check first with somebody who knows the particular cow. (And if they tell you to stay out of their pasture – stay out of their pasture.) ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5347 "2025-08-16T21:14:54Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Depends a good deal on the particular cow. Some domestic cattle are quite friendly. (Watch out for your buttons.) I’m too lazy to look for statistics, but I’m quite sure that more people get killed by domestic than wild bovines. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5348 "2025-08-16T21:15:41Z")
How about the fact that RFK jr is an advocate of raw milk? Why not sue him? That’s who I’d blame. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5349 "2025-08-16T21:17:09Z")
I wouldn’t be surprised. A whole lot more people spend a whole lot more time around domestic bovines than around wild ones. I’m actually pretty sure that more people get killed by other people. And by mosquitos (though indirectly in the latter case.) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5350 "2025-08-16T23:57:02Z")
Yet another pilot who decided he was ok to drink and fly. Good job by TSA in alerting the police and stopping him. > **[Bodycam footage shows pilot failing a sobriety test moments before takeoff](https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2025/08/bodycam-footage-shows-pilot-for-major-airline-failing-a-sobriety-test-moments-before-takeoff.html)** > > Newly released bodycam footage shows the pilot swaying and struggling with balance during a field sobriety test. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5351 "2025-08-17T15:10:09Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Depends a good deal on the particular cow. Some domestic cattle are quite friendly. (Watch out for your buttons.) Others are not. Always check first with somebody who knows the particular cow. (And if they tell you to stay out of their pasture – stay out of their pasture.) The classic [Snopes piece](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cows-kill-more-people-than-sharks/) confirms that cows (or more accurately, cattle) are a considerably greater death threat than sharks. However, being attacked by a shark is a deliberate action (on the part of the shark) whereas a great many domestic-bovine-caused deaths are not intentional (on the part of the cow). ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5352 "2025-08-17T15:54:44Z")
A considerably greater threat in terms of human deaths per year, yes. The article doesn’t address, and doesn’t change, my point that > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > A whole lot more people spend a whole lot more time around domestic bovines than around wild ones. A whole lot more people also spend a whole lot more time around domestic bovines than around sharks. I don’t know the exact number of people who spend much of their work lives working with and/or in the immediate presence of sharks; but although it isn’t zero it’s got to be miniscule compared to the number who spend much of their work lives working with and/or in the immediate presence of dairy cattle, beef cattle, and/or working oxen. The risk per hours of interaction is in no way going to be the same figure as the risk per total annual cases. You should still keep your hands off and your butt away from other people’s livestock unless specifically invited to do otherwise, of course; ideally invited by both the relevant human(s) and the individual critter(s). And, for that matter, all of that also applies to dogs, cats, etc. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5353 "2025-08-17T16:48:59Z")
But, sharks will only attack you when you’re wet. ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5354 "2025-08-17T17:06:19Z")
Many posters seem to be missing the specific reference to ‘fluffy’ cows. Um, those would be the bison variety of cows, if I catch the drift, and much less accepting of casual greetings. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5355 "2025-08-17T17:11:47Z")
“Fluffy” is sometimes used as a sardo-polite way to speak of a person who has acquired some excess of avoirdupois. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5356 "2025-08-17T18:05:21Z")
The first picture in [Running Coach’s post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5328) is a domesticated bovine that could fairly be described as “fluffy”. Or maybe “shaggy”. In any event, those who work regularly with bovines don’t treat them as friends, subject to things like snuggling. They know that they’re dangerous animals, and respect that, and give them space when needed. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5357 "2025-08-17T19:07:17Z")
I know people who pet their cattle. (“Snuggling” with a creature that size can amount to leaning against them in a friendly matter, sometimes while skritching heads. While the cow is likely to try to eat the buttons off your shirt.) But they do know the cattle can be dangerous, and respect that, and give them space when needed. This isn’t contradictory to being friendly with them; it’s knowing how to be friendly with them. – I grant that there are a lot of people working with cattle who aren’t friendly with them. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5358 "2025-08-18T00:34:43Z")
Given the tragedy that this lady has endured with her children I hesitate to call this lady “stupid”, but certainly it seems like a serious lapse in judgment. > **[Mother sues Florida dairy farm, claims she lost fetus after raw milk led to...](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2025/08/14/mother-sues-florida-dairy-farm-claims-she-lost-fetus-after-raw-milk-led-to-bacterial-infection/)** > > A New Smyrna Beach dairy farm was named in a lawsuit filed by a woman who claims she lost her fetus after falling ill while caring for her toddler who became sick after drinking raw, unpasteurized milk. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5359 "2025-08-18T00:41:42Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Given the tragedy that this lady has endured with her children I hesitate to call this lady “stupid”, but certainly it seems like a serious lapse in judgment. > . > [Mother sues Florida dairy farm, claims she lost fetus after raw milk led to bacterial infection](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2025/08/14/mother-sues-florida-dairy-farm-claims-she-lost-fetus-after-raw-milk-led-to-bacterial-infection/) “But that one weird trick never works! This time for sure!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5360 "2025-08-18T00:46:17Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Given the tragedy that this lady has endured with her children I hesitate to call this lady “stupid”, See post #5332 > [@Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5332): > > [Florida woman intentionally drinks unpasteurized milk, then blames the dairy for miscarriage.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/florida-mom-lucky-alive-miscarrying-160931650.html) (The bolding is mine.) A woman is suing a [Florida](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/florida) dairy farm after alleging that coming into contact with [bacteria](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/bacteria) from its raw, unpasteurized [milk](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/milk) caused her to suffer a miscarriage. Rachel Maddox filed a lawsuit in Seminole County on Wednesday against Keely Farms Dairy of New Smyrna Beach, the same business that was last week tied to [at least 21 cases of E. coli and Campylobacter bacteria sickness](https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsroom/2025/08/20250806-florida-department-health-provides-update-raw-milk.pr.html) … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=267) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=269)