# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 282
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5621 "2025-09-24T01:07:52Z")
I’m putting this story under “stupid” instead of “evil” because I really hope that these restaurant workers genuinely thought they were doing something good as opposed to stopping someone from possibly being saved by CPR. > **[Lioness actor died after restaurant staff stopped CPR attempts, lawsuit claims](https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/mike-heslin-death-lawsuit-cpr-b2832024.html)** > > Heslin died ‘unexpectedly’ in July 2024, aged 30 ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5622 "2025-09-24T01:31:48Z")
If they actually stopped someone from doing CPR, that’s one thing. But the friends who were with him seem to also be furious that the waitstaff didn’t perform CPR themselves. If the friends didn’t know how to do so, why did they expect the waitstaff to know how? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5623 "2025-09-24T02:06:56Z")
Or possibly that the staff didn’t immediately and effectively summon help, that there was apparently no training or protocol to do so. It’s not at all clear from that why they stopped the bystander from continuing CPR. $30,000 seems a pretty paltry sum to be suing for. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5624 "2025-09-24T04:56:57Z")
[Blackface again. Or should I say Blackface still?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/atlanta-high-school-volleyball-game-144628842.html) > [@](#): > > Parents and local leaders are incensed after a group — including adults — showed up in blackface at a [Georgia](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/georgia) high school volleyball game. > > The alleged incident occurred at Whitewater High School in Fayetteville, Georgia, last week during a girls’ match against LaGrange High School. A photo captured the disturbing incident, showing five individuals with bodies and faces covered in black paint, wearing white afros. Each boasted a letter spelling “RYLEE” on their chests. > > The involved individuals have not been publicly named. However, the group included one non-Whitewater student and several adults, Fayette County Public Schools Superintendent Jonathan Patterson told the community at Monday’s board of education meeting. > > “We want to state clearly: it is never acceptable to paint one’s face black. This action is deeply offensive, and it does not reflect the values of our schools or our community,” the superintendent said. “We sincerely apologize for the hurt this incident has caused to our students, families, and community.” > > School staff confronted the group after they entered the gym, Patterson said, regretting they were allowed inside at all. To ensure such an incident never happens again, the district is working with NAACP and other groups “to provide training and support so that our staff can respond appropriately in the future,” he said. What training do you think you can provide? Obviously _Don’t be a stupid MFer_ failed with the event staff. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5625 "2025-09-24T10:43:04Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I really hope that these restaurant workers genuinely thought they were doing something good as opposed to stopping someone from possibly being saved by CPR. The only thing I can really think is that someone thought he wasn’t having a heart attack but rather choking or having a seizure or allergic reaction or some other medical event that CPR would, at best, do nothing but could actually make things worse. > “keep a stock and inventory of emergency response equipment” and “activate a known and expected emergency response protocol, including summoning trained personnel or securing and deploying an automated external defibrillator (AED), which was believed to be available on site.” A few things bug me here. First of all, if you’re going to accuse someone of not deploying an AED that you “believe was on site” why would you not confirm whether or not there actually is one on site? Would it really have been that difficult for them to send someone down to the restaurant to nose around a bit and see if they could find one? Then at least you could accuse them of having one and not using it. I’m also assuming you can’t (successfully) sue someone for not having an emergency protocol in place for medical events. But I could be wrong on that. I’m especially not familiar with laws that only come into play for larger employers. Though that type of thing, IME, tends to be more at the demand of your insurance company in order to keep your rates down. Was an autopsy done? Do they know the _actual_ cause of death? That article and one linked in it say that he died for unknown reasons a week after having a cardiac event. How can they claim that the doctors have no explanation for what happened, but it’s also, somehow, ARIA’s fault? How can a bunch of casino employees possibly prevent a death that happens for reasons even medical science (/s) can’t explain. Look at it like this: I see a pedestrian get hit by a car and I just stand there and watch as they bleed out. I get sued for the wrongful death because I didn’t attempt to stop the bleeding or even call 911. Now, if their doctor said ‘we have no idea why he died’, I would think my lawyer would really lean on that statement. WRT to the suit only being for $30k I’m guessing that’s either meant to be low enough that they’re hoping ARIA will just pay them to make it go away OR they actually have solid case and $30k represents something concrete. For example, if you remember the famous case of a woman suing McDonalds because the coffee was too hot. Before the multi-million dollar lawsuit that she won, she had originally asked them for the $20k in medical expenses she incurred. I could very much see the $30k being part or all of the hospital bill. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5626 "2025-09-24T11:38:47Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Or possibly that the staff didn’t immediately and effectively summon help, that there was apparently no training or protocol to do so. If there was no one on site trained as a first responder, then summoning help would be calling 911; which the friends presumably could also have done. (I gather that somebody did, though it’s not clear who.)[ETA: the article actually doesn’t say anything about it.] Is it now considered standard for restaurants to have first responders on staff? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5627 "2025-09-24T11:42:42Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Is it now considered standard for restaurants to have first responders on staff? Server, EMT aren’t they really the same job with the same training in the end? ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5628 "2025-09-24T11:44:38Z")
In the case of Flight Attendants, they actually are. Which is why I try to always be polite to them. Yes, the bring me my drink, but more importantly, they can also save my life. `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5629 "2025-09-24T11:58:47Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I see a pedestrian get hit by a car and I just stand there and watch as they bleed out. I get sued for the wrongful death because I didn’t attempt to stop the bleeding or even call 911. Now, note, in the US at least, there is no legal obligation for random passersby to intervene. Actually, in some states, the act of getting involved to help may actually open you to legal consequences, though in some (but not others) there are good Samaritan laws to shield from that. In a private facility like a restaurant, it could very well be policy to only let certain trained staff directly intervene medically and to keep other patrons out of the way. I don’t see what they did as either stupid or evil based on the information at hand. Jumping in and just starting chest compressions or allowing Jane Q RandomPerson to do so is not necessarily the best thing to do. Sometimes the “obvious” thing is not as sensible as we like to think. I suspect the hotel has a strong case for what their staff did, as long as they had staff guidelines for medical emergencies (very likely for a large Strip hotel) and the staff followed those (who knows?). Of course, the amount he’s asking for ($30k) is tiny in the grand scheme, which is kind of suspicious in its own way. It could go either way. The may pay him off to get rid of the suit or defend to avoid a spate of future such suits. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5630 "2025-09-24T13:21:38Z")
The offender here is a kid, so it’s hard to call him evil and put him in the other thread. But this kid needs to get some serious punishment. He broke the kid’s vertebrae, for friggin’ sake. > **[High school football player’s ‘unacceptable’ actions leave another player with...](https://www.live5news.com/2025/09/23/high-school-football-players-unacceptable-actions-leave-another-player-with-broken-spine/)** > > Video shows a high school football player knock down a player on the opposing team then belly flop on top of him while he's lying on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5631 "2025-09-24T13:59:06Z")
From the link: > [@](#): > > Neither district specified what disciplinary action was taken against the Kalamazoo Central player, but he will be out for a few games, according to the mother of the injured Lakeshore player. WNDU is still working to confirm that. A couple of games? WTF? Why isn’t he banned for at least the rest of the season? The kid is huge, and the action was deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5632 "2025-09-24T14:34:12Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Is it now considered standard for restaurants to have first responders on staff? I don’t know, but the article made it seem like all the staff did was stand around and gawp (and prevent someone from doing CPR). The article is woefully short on useful information. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5633 "2025-09-24T15:41:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What training do you think you can provide? Obviously _Don’t be a stupid MFer_ failed with the event staff. I really think there is a difference between “blackface” as a parody of race and other reasons for using black paint. I looked up the school. Want to guess what their school colors are? Red, silver, and black. So black paint, I bet those “white” wigs were supposed to be silver, and I bet the lettering was red. People paint themselves in team/school colors for games all of the time. > **[Whitewater High School (Georgia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_High_School_(Georgia))** > > Whitewater High School is a public secondary school in Fayetteville, Georgia, United States. It serves grades 9-12 for the Fayette County School System. > Whitewater has been accredited by Cognia, or its predecessors, since 2003. The school was ranked 1,758th nationally, 42nd for Georgia and 3rd for Fayette County in the 2020 U.S. News & World Report's annual ranking of high schools. > The demographic breakdown of the 1,428 students enrolled for 2018-19 was: (And, ETA, actually looking at the photo provided, I see the lettering was white, and the paint was…poorly executed.) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5634 "2025-09-24T16:11:07Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > (And, ETA, actually looking at the photo provided, I see the lettering was white, and the paint was…poorly executed.) And the white afros were? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5635 "2025-09-24T17:06:32Z")
As close to silver as they could find? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5636 "2025-09-24T17:11:06Z")
‘We were trying to do cat’s eyes and whiskers over whiteface like the team mascot and… well… things just didn’t go right.’ ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5637 "2025-09-24T17:40:55Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > > Is it now considered standard for restaurants to have first responders on staff? > > I don’t know, but the article made it seem like all the staff did was stand around and gawp (and prevent someone from doing CPR). The article is woefully short on useful information. I agree that the article’s seriously lacking. But if the staff weren’t trained as first responders, or at least trained in basic CPR, the only suitable thing for them to do would have been to call 911 and to keep random bystanders out of the way. And if any of them were trained in basic CPR, they may have seen some reason not to perform it. One of the things the article doesn’t provide is any mention of whether anyone had checked for breathing and/or heartbeat. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5638 "2025-09-24T17:51:25Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > And if any of them were trained in basic CPR, they may have seen some reason not to perform it. One of the things the article doesn’t provide is any mention of whether anyone had checked for breathing and/or heartbeat. Are you suggesting that all of my medical training watching TV medical dramas is wrong? It isn’t always: CPR until someone comes with the “_ **CLEAR!** _” machine then an IV with Ringing Lactose or WD40? I might actually need some medical responder training after all… ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5639 "2025-09-24T17:57:48Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > WD40? An IV with WD40\* sounds like something the trump administration would advocate to treat covid. “paging Dr Kennedy! You’re wanted in the Oval Office, stat!” (If the only defillerberating setting they use is 400 Watt-seconds, why are there other settings? WHOOMP!) \*That’s what my wife always calls it on Emergency! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/5640 "2025-09-24T18:00:56Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > That’s what my wife always calls it on Emergency! You caught my IV reference! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=281) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=283)