# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/601 "2024-03-20T14:56:39Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The 23-year-old, identified only by his last name, Zhang, plunged his feet in a bucket of dry ice for more than 10 hours to get them so badly frostbitten that he would need a double amputation, Of all the stupid things in this thread, this has to be near the top. Not thought through all the way Deliberate Painful Permanent damage Failed to get money Looks stupid to the entire world “I did it for the money. I don’t have the money, and I don’t have my legs. Pretty, isn’t it.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/602 "2024-03-20T15:32:49Z")
I’m curious about the evil mofo who did the persuading. What did he hope to obtain from this racket? I also wonder about the mental state of both of them. Before the caper that is, not now. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/603 "2024-03-20T15:37:22Z")
> [@](#): > > …$1.3 million insurance scam wound up getting only $7,200 that he now has to return: prosecutors He doesn’t have a leg to stand on. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/604 "2024-03-20T18:54:49Z")
He’s lucky he didn’t kick the bucket. At least that won’t happen now. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/605 "2024-03-20T19:05:27Z")
> **[An Ohio toddler died after her mom left her home alone while she took a...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-toddler-died-her-mom-130612092.html)** > > Kristel Candelario was sentenced to life in prison by a judge who scolded her for posing for photos on a beach in Puerto Rico while her 16-month-old daughter lay dying alone in a filthy playpen back in Cleveland. > An Ohio toddler died after her mom left her home alone while she took a 10-day vacation. … > > Kristel Candelario, was away on a 10-day summer vacation and had left Jailyn alone in a playpen with a few bottles of milk, … > > But Candelario was hundreds of miles away in Puerto Rico with a male friend, authorities said. After a few days at the beach and another stop in Detroit, she returned home on June 16 last year to find her daughter dead. She’d been gone for about 10 days. … > > Candelario told the court she prays daily for forgiveness, adding that she believes God and Jailyn have forgiven her. > > “I am not trying to justify my actions, but nobody knew how much I was suffering and what I was going through,” she said. The mother was sentenced to life in prison, without the possibility of parole. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/606 "2024-03-20T19:18:57Z")
Mentioned in the Evil MFers thread. > [@Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/842): > > Non an Evil Motherfucker but rather an Evil Fucking Mother, for my daily dose of recreational outrage [Mother who left toddler alone for 10 days while on vacation gets life in prison for murder](https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/woman-who-left-toddler-alone-for-10-days-while-on-vacation-gets-life-in-prison-for-murder) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/607 "2024-03-20T20:14:52Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The mother was sentenced to life in prison, without the possibility of parole. I think that’s not enough. They should forget to feed her for a week or two. My standard is, if you murdered someone, the method you used is not “cruel and unusual”, and can be used on you. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/608 "2024-03-20T20:26:54Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I think that’s not enough. They should forget to feed her for a week or two. > > My standard is, if you murdered someone, the method you used is not “cruel and unusual”, and can be used on you. And inflicting that sort of punishment on someone really does terrible things to the person assigned (or even volunteering) to render the ‘punishment’. You are what you do, not what you believe. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/609 "2024-03-20T20:36:58Z")
Meeting evil with evil is still evil. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/610 "2024-03-20T20:43:50Z")
One can say that about any form of legal punishment. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/611 "2024-03-20T21:19:18Z")
That’s a rather absolutist = mindless perspective. But unsurprising. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/612 "2024-03-20T21:44:24Z")
One could say that, but one would be in error. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/613 "2024-03-20T21:57:52Z")
I would say that legal punishment is, in fact, meeting evil with evil, but “punishment” is not the same thing as “consequences” or “penalties”. Criminal sentences can also, potentially, serve the purposes of restitution, rehabilitation, protection of the public, and deterrence towards other potential criminals, and those are all non-evil purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/614 "2024-03-21T00:53:39Z")
> **[Parents of Woman Found 'Melted' to Sofa Enter Plea In Horrifying Case](https://toofab.com/2024/02/06/parents-of-woman-found-melted-to-sofa-plead-no-contest/)** > > Their attorney said the parents "loved their daughter to death"; her remains were found partly submerged in a hole in a couch covered from head to toe in urine, liquid feces, maggots and insect bites. The thumbnail and article show a picture of the couch. If you do a google image search for “Lacey Ellen Fletcher”, there’s more pictures of her (alive) sitting on that same couch, as well as, what I assume is, a crime scene picture. Her face is blurred and she’s mostly under a blanket and if you didn’t know better, you’d probably assume she’s sleeping, but the picture is out there if anyone wants to see it. It’s not that graphic, but it seems wrong to link to it here. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/615 "2024-03-21T05:39:33Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I would say that legal punishment is, in fact, meeting evil with evil, but “punishment” is not the same thing as “consequences” or “penalties”. It’s the difference between justice and vengeance. The law seeks justice while JAQ is asking for vengeance. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/616 "2024-03-21T14:45:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I would say that legal punishment is, in fact, meeting evil with evil, but “punishment” is not the same thing as “consequences” or “penalties”. Criminal sentences can also, potentially, serve the purposes of restitution, rehabilitation, protection of the public, and deterrence towards other potential criminals, and those are all non-evil purposes. The problem is that, while those are the theoretical goals of criminal justice, the system we have mostly fails at them (has a troublingly low success rate). Prison was invented for dealing with the enemies of the Crown and is largely impractical as a tool for managing modern social problems. And “restitution” is almost entirely absent from the criminal justice system. But this is a subject to be thrashed out in detail in another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/617 "2024-03-21T14:46:46Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Remember to hold your judgement until we have all the facts. Maybe the toddler was a Nazi. Free Hat. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/618 "2024-03-21T14:58:31Z")
Clever, but stupid. > **[Man arrested after allegedly boarding Delta flight using photo of another...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-arrested-allegedly-boarding-delta-045604654.html)** > > A Texas man was arrested after boarding a Delta Air Lines flight in Salt Lake City on Sunday without a ticket, instead using a photo he took of another passenger’s boarding pass while they were not looking, according to court documents. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/619 "2024-03-21T17:12:56Z")
Sounds like it would have worked if the plane wasn’t full. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/620 "2024-03-21T17:20:34Z")
It shouldn’t have worked, though. The ticketing system shouldn’t have allowed two entries on the same ticket. Whoever tried to enter later, whether with the real pass or the copy, should have been flagged as a duplicate by the system. Unless gate agents are used to people getting off and then reboarding. Does that happen often? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=32)