# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 338
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2026, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6741 "2026-03-23T22:45:54Z")
That’s surprising considering the large Hispanic community in South Lawndale…. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6742 "2026-03-23T22:47:22Z")
The restaurant I ordered from was in the Loop. ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6743 "2026-03-23T22:54:42Z")
El Greco does that 🤮… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2026, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6744 "2026-03-23T22:55:25Z")
Now that you mention it, I think El Greco may have been the restaurant I ordered from. 😆 It was 11 PM, I was hungry, and they were close enough that it wasn’t gonna be a long wait for delivery. Lettuce in a burrito was weird and I thought the meat could’ve used more seasoning, but it wasn’t _horrible_. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6745 "2026-03-24T05:12:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He seems to be claiming that Zulu nationalists want to kill him for supposedly embarrassing their culture. Not quite sure why the Zimbabweans are getting involved, the amaNdebele split from the amaZulu in the early nineteenth century. The languages are mutually understandable, but there is a fair amount of historical tension even now. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6746 "2026-03-24T05:23:15Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Not quite sure why the Zimbabweans are getting involved, the amaNdebele split from the amaZulu in the early nineteenth century. I’d be surprised if they actually are. The lawyer filing the suit seems to be painting the broadest possible brush in claiming that a standup comedian’s remarks are an unforvgiveable insult against African culture. I can, however, thank him for causing me to discover how southeastern African languages are related to a certain degree. I knew that “baba” can mean “father” as in “God” because of the Swahili rendition of the Lord’s Prayer that’s sung over the opening credits of _Civilization IV_, which is what lead me to realize that the comedian’s interpretation of the lyrics was valid. > **[Baba Yetu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yetu)** > > "Baba Yetu" (Swahili: "Our Father") is the main theme song for the 2005 video game Civilization IV. It was composed by Christopher Tin and performed by Ron Ragin and the Stanford Talisman. For its re-release in Tin's debut album Calling All Dawns, it was performed by the Soweto Gospel Choir. The song, when rereleased, became the first piece of video game music to be nominated for and to win a Grammy Award. > Being a fan of the Civilization series, Tin reconnected with his former roommate Soren Jo... > **[Christopher Tin - Baba Yetu (Official Video) feat. Soweto Gospel Choir](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A%2F1)** > > "Baba Yetu", the hit theme to Civilization IV - composed by Christopher Tin and featured on the double Grammy-winning album 'Calling All Dawns'. First video... ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6747 "2026-03-24T12:20:11Z")
I’m _guessing_ this could go in the Stupid Republican thread, but I don’t feel like trying to find evidence that this guy is a republican (but I’m assuming he is). I think the only time I’ve mentioned this is in an unrelated thread from a few years ago and I didn’t want to bump it: > [@Widespread fraud found by Michigan Elections Office!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/widespread-fraud-found-by-michigan-elections-office/965197/30): > > We’ve been watching some (minor?) voter fraud play out in Wisconsin. A guy decided he gets to contest the election and issued this statement: Notice is hereby given that H.O.T. Government thru its President Harry Wait and Harry Wait as a Racine County resident challenge and contest the certification of Racine County’s Elections dated August 9th, 2022 for the following reasons and seek reconciliation of the ballots: 1. Absentee ballots are not verified nor secure due to proven vulnerabilities… The short version is that he wanted to prove that the absentee voting system makes it easy to commit fraud and in order to prove it, he committed some fraud. He requested absentee ballots for some city/state officials and then told them about it. The court case has finally started with the two sides making the expected arguments. Wait’s defense is saying that he was just trying to show that the system has vulnerabilities while the state argues that exploiting said vulnerabilities is illegal, period. From [here](https://www.fox6now.com/news/racine-county-trial-begins-man-accused-election-fraud) and [here](https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/racine-county-election-fraud-trial-begins-over-absentee-ballot-requests). > “The question for you is one question. It needs to be the guiding question that you examine all of the evidence through, and it’s this. In Harry’s crusade to expose MyVote’s vulnerabilities, did he violate these statutes? That’s the question,” Bugni said. > The defense says Wait emailed Vos, Mason, the district attorney and the sheriff about six hours after requesting the ballots, emphasizing his intent to highlight potential flaws rather than commit fraud. The defense claims it is all about the intention. The defense is leaning on the intent side of things. I suppose it’s understandable for a few reasons. One, it’s probably all they have going for them and two, IIRC, he tried, or claimed he tried to let TPTB know about this vulnerability and they didn’t listen to him so he showed them. Ron Johnson called him a white hat hacker. And, while he has his vocal supporters in the court of public opinion, I’m _guessing_ this will be a slam dunk for the state. Here’s the two charges: 943.201(2)(a) Misappropriate ID Info - Obtain Money > (2) Whoever, for any of the following purposes, intentionally uses, attempts to use, or possesses with intent to use any personal identifying information or personal identification document of an individual, including a deceased individual, without the authorization or consent of the individual and by representing that he or she is the individual, that he or she is acting with the authorization or consent of the individual, or that the information or document belongs to him or her is guilty of a Class H felony: > (a)To obtain credit, money, goods, services, employment, or any other thing of value or benefit. and 12.13(3)(i) Election Fraud-Fraud/Absentee Ballot > No person may falsely make any statement for the purpose of obtaining or voting an absentee ballot under ss. [6.85](https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/document/statutes/6.85) to [6.87](https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/document/statutes/6.87). Regarding intent, for the first charge, he pretty clearly intentionally used personally identifying information with the intent of acquiring the absentee ballots. There’s no exception for doing it to prove a point. The second statute makes no mention of intent, and statutes are usually pretty good about adding a ‘with intent to…’ clause when they feel it’s important. Also, even if it did mention intent, he still intentionally made a false statement for the purpose of obtaining a ballot. Again, no exception for doing it to prove a point. I’m guessing this is will, at least in part, be the state’s argument. It seems pretty black and white to me. The other argument I’m guessing they’ll make is that he set out to show how easy to commit election fraud with absentee ballots. However, the fact that he’s in court defending himself against election fraud charges shows that the system is working, he didn’t get away with it. Granted that’s not quite ‘fair’ since he essentially turned himself in, but I imagine them gliding over that detail. In any case, from the state’s POV, this seems like a ‘dead to rights’ case. I don’t see how this doesn’t result in a guilty verdict and probably jail time for him. My prediction, when this is all said and done, 30 Days in jail and $1000-$5000 fine. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6748 "2026-03-24T13:09:26Z")
His defense better not fly. I can commit any number of crimes just to show that it’s possible. How ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6749 "2026-03-24T13:23:34Z")
“But I was just showing how it’s possible to write a holdup note signed with Robin Vos’s name, and obtain cash from a local bank. Not only that, I also demonstrated the corruption found in our traffic laws, as I had no trouble in attaining a speed of 90 mph in a school zone as I fled the squad cars…” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6750 "2026-03-24T13:28:10Z")
> [@](#): > > These false statements were made to damage the reputation of Lebo M and Lebo M’s African Culture. Lebo M now fears for his life due to Xenophobic comments that have fueled anger towards Lebo M from Zimbabweans and South Africans. > > These comments have now placed Lebo M’s family and business associates in grave danger by would be assassins which have forced Lebo M to acquire more security. Apparently Lebo M’s pronouns are Lebo M/Lebo M’s. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6751 "2026-03-24T13:36:37Z")
(The following is fictional, hypothetical, and for illustrative purposes alone!) See, there are loopholes and flaws with our gun laws, so I shot up a school to demonstrate that. (I did not actually do that! It’s an example!) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6752 "2026-03-24T14:42:23Z")
I don’t want someone to get away with voter fraud in the name of “testing the system”; but I also think that complex systems should be tested, and not necessarily by the people who built them. Ideally, that would lead people to trust them more. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6753 "2026-03-24T15:50:54Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t want someone to get away with voter fraud in the name of “testing the system”; but I also think that complex systems should be tested, and not necessarily by the people who built them. Agreed, which is why there are security professionals who do that sort of thing for a living. This guy isn’t one of those people. Context matters. Cutting people up for surgery is a necessary and lifesaving act, but that doesn’t excuse stabbing people with a knife. > [@bobot](#): > > His defense better not fly. I don’t think it will. Another person in Wisconsin did the same thing as Harry, and was convicted for it. And when she appealed on the same grounds as Harry’s defense, it was denied. [Ex-official convicted of voter fraud spins wheels with whistleblower defense on appeal](https://www.courthousenews.com/ex-official-convicted-of-voter-fraud-spins-wheels-with-whistleblower-defense-on-appeal/) Neither history nor the law are on his side. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6754 "2026-03-24T18:17:10Z")
I don’t think Nightaudit was responding to “Felipe Lopez” so much, as you (a German) made a Hispanic reference, and a couple of their brain sparks connected and came up with “I wonder how Hispanic food tastes in Germany?” We Americans are always told ethnic food is toned down in spiciness and increased in sweetness to better appeal to our tastebuds, and we feel cheated. That leads to other speculations like “Do German tacos have sausage and sauerkraut instead of beef and lettuce?” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6755 "2026-03-24T18:56:18Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > That leads to other speculations like “Do German tacos have sausage and sauerkraut instead of beef and lettuce?” What a dumb question, that’s like suggesting that sushi in the US has slices of processed cheese on it. [![](https://www.anchordairy.com/my/en/recipes/quick-and-easy/sushi-cheese-roll/_jcr_content/root/container/container/container/image.coreimg.jpeg/1719270694256/anchor-malaysia-recipes-quick-and-easy-sushi-cheese-roll.jpeg) ](https://www.anchordairy.com/my/en/recipes/quick-and-easy/sushi-cheese-roll/_jcr_content/root/container/container/container/image.coreimg.jpeg/1719270694256/anchor-malaysia-recipes-quick-and-easy-sushi-cheese-roll.jpeg) Dammit. 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6756 "2026-03-24T19:00:22Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > “Do German tacos have sausage and sauerkraut instead of beef and lettuce?” Years ago I saw a menu from a Mexican restaurant in Glasgow that served haggis tacos. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6757 "2026-03-24T19:30:54Z")
These days they just double the price and call it “fusion cuisine.” ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6758 "2026-03-24T21:09:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > What a dumb question, that’s like suggesting that sushi in the US has slices of processed cheese on it. That’s hard to fathom. I’ve found that even the inclusion of a small amount of cream cheese on the _inside_ makes it taste noticably less sushi-ish. I still eat philly rolls sometimes, though, since they still taste good and variety is the spice of life. Actually, in a technically more accurate sense, spice is the spice of life, but variety comes pretty close too. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6759 "2026-03-24T21:13:23Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > That’s hard to fathom. I’ve never had it myself, but sadly, cheese-covered sushi is a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/6760 "2026-03-24T21:54:09Z")
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