# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7421 "2026-06-04T11:13:33Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Bites are uncommon, though. I don’t think there have been more than a dozen or two over the last century

Of course, when talking shark bites it is usually in the context of the human being in the water. This case more closely resembles someone annoying a cat or dog to the point that it finally snaps at them.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7422 "2026-06-04T11:35:34Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Of course, when talking shark bites it is usually in the context of the human being in the water.

Or when making an analogy to a murderer with a jackknife.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7423 "2026-06-04T11:59:16Z")

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👏  
Und it makes quite the messer.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8le92o0_wLE/maxresdefault.jpg "Mack The Knife by Lotte Lenya") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8le92o0_wLE)

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7424 "2026-06-04T11:59:55Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> This case more closely resembles someone annoying a cat or dog to the point that it finally snaps at them.

Sure, but as mentioned, fishing for sharks does happen. And usually without incident.

Not really enough detail to say for certain but there was at least some stupidity (or the near-equivalent complacency) involved. The ones in the bay aren’t great whites or the other huge sharks from TV (the minimum length for fishing on the most common varieties is 2 feet - a kid isn’t going to be trying to pull in an 8 foot shark by himself!), so it’s easy to forget or underestimate they’re still wild predators.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7425 "2026-06-04T12:03:46Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> fishing for sharks does happen. And usually without incident.

And people probably get bit by their catch a lot - but “boy bit by tuna” doesn’t make a headline.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7426 "2026-06-04T12:11:15Z")

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I knew there were a number of cover versions of Mack The Knife, but Today I Learned that Bobby Darrin’s version wasn’t the original. It wasn’t even the first cover version, it wasn’t even the first famous cover version (Louis Armstrong).

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7427 "2026-06-04T12:27:30Z")

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The visuals there are from the [1931](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Threepenny_Opera_(1931_film)) film adaptation of _The Threepenny Opera_ (_Die 3 Groschen-Oper_) but the vocals are an over-dub of [Lotte Lenya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotte_Lenya), the wife of Kurt Weill who scored the 1928 stage adaptation.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7428 "2026-06-04T12:30:58Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> …[Lotte Lenya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotte_Lenya), the wife of Kurt Weill who scored the 1928 stage adaptation.

And later, villain in one of the early Bond films.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7429 "2026-06-04T14:05:35Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> “boy bit by tuna”

“In Soviet Russia…”

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> it wasn’t even the first famous cover version (Louis Armstrong)

The Armstrong version is the one I’m most familiar with.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7430 "2026-06-04T14:59:44Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I knew there were a number of cover versions of Mack The Knife, but Today I Learned that Bobby Darrin’s version wasn’t the original.

I vaguely knew his cover had been bowlderized but sufferin’ cats!

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> And later, villain in one of the early Bond films.

Ah, yes. Rosa Klebb of the pointy shoes. Np wonder the name rang a bell.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-SXbmeFCnTM/maxresdefault.jpg "From Russia with Love (10/10) Movie CLIP - A Maid With Evil Kicks (1963) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXbmeFCnTM)

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7431 "2026-06-04T17:52:31Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The Armstrong version is the one I’m most familiar with.

And though not a direct copy the song I associate it most is Perdo Navaja by Willie Colón & Rubén Blades:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5LqnbAkqRYQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Willie Colón & Rubén Blades - Pedro Navaja (Audio Oficial)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LqnbAkqRYQ)

`//i\\`

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7432 "2026-06-04T18:55:33Z")

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I remember once a radio station was playing love songs on Valentine’s Day, and apparently decided that anything Frank Sinatra sang was a love song, so they played Sinatra’s version of Mack the Knife (which is about, you know, murder. How romantic!).

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Mobsters need love too. And often have SOs.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7434 "2026-06-04T21:52:53Z")

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I always figured Mack was popular with the ladies. What do you think Jenny, Suky, Lotte, and Lucy were lining up for?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
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People tend to open up around him.

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A real rapier wit he was. And a well-known ladykiller.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7437 "2026-06-05T17:01:47Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> What do you think Jenny, Suky, Lotte, and Lucy were lining up for?

There was no Lotte in the original song. I think Darrin was looking for some cred with the name drop.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7438 "2026-06-05T17:06:01Z")

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Y’know, I’d be OK if nobody ever played the Sinatra version of anything.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7439 "2026-06-05T17:11:27Z")

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I don’t know… If Sinatra had covered Dr. Dre’s “Deep Cover”, I think that would be pretty damn interesting.

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/7440 "2026-06-05T17:16:29Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> There was no Lotte in the original song. I think Darrin was looking for some cred with the name drop.

Actually, the earliest one that I know of that uses Lotte is Armstrong’s version.

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