# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 402
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8021 "2026-08-01T19:12:54Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The hard core expert fan is not, and never has been, the core of network sportscasting’s target market. They want max headcount in their audience, not max expertise. This is true in other fields as well. I’ll never forget when someone pointed out to me that a record company could sell more music by selling it to people who don’t particularly like good music than they could to people who do. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8022 "2026-08-01T20:00:51Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > It happened pretty much right after the first season. There’s good reason to believe CBS told him to tone it down and be more like “regular” analysts. Fuck, is that why? How shitty, he was so good. Assholes. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8023 "2026-08-01T20:04:45Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The hard core expert fan is not, and never has been, the core of network sportscasting’s target market. They want max headcount in their audience, not max expertise. Lowest common denominator. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8024 "2026-08-01T20:08:46Z")
Wasn’t John Madden valued specifically for his expert analyses of the games? I’m not even much of a football fan and I could follow what he would explain. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8025 "2026-08-01T20:11:52Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Wasn’t John Madden valued specifically for his expert analyses of the games? I think he was a pioneer of sorts in drawing up plays during live telecasts to explain what was going on. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8026 "2026-08-01T21:19:52Z")
The fact that I’m not an expert would make me more appreciative, not less, for an expert commentator. I want somebody who can tell me the significance of why things happened. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8027 "2026-08-02T01:53:13Z")
Well, here’s a day I never thought I’d see - a grift so nakedly corrupt that even FIFA wants no part of it. [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/08/01/uefa-demand-change-fifa-after-infantino-world-cup-sale-plan/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/08/01/uefa-demand-change-fifa-after-infantino-world-cup-sale-plan/) > Gianni Infantino is facing an ultimatum from Uefa: resign or face an emergency no-confidence vote. > > It is understood all 55 of Uefa’s member nations would opt to oust Infantino in a vote of no-confidence if he refuses to step down. Uefa can trigger such a vote with just 43 member nations. > > European football’s governing body announced a loss of confidence on Saturday morning and has demanded change after Infantino was [forced to scrap his £15bn plan](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/07/31/fifa-scraps-world-cup-sale-plan/) to sell a stake in the World Cup. > Infantino drew criticism across the footballing world after it was revealed that he planned to sell 30 per cent of World Cup commercial rights to private investors. > > The scheme would have resulted in a group of investors controlling the commercial interests of Fifa’s top men’s and women’s competitions. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8028 "2026-08-02T02:40:32Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Not long after I bought my home (In Mesa, AZ) two well-meaning nice young missionaries came to my door. I told them that my mom had been born Mormon, but “she got better”. (true) I was much more snarky (rude?) in those days. I probably got a rep in the ward, but no one came to the door anymore, either. Oh, lordy, lordy, you remind me of this classic post by Master\_Wang-Ka: [You sneaky little Jehovah's Witness bastard! - #31 by Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-sneaky-little-jehovahs-witness-bastard/232042/31) Granted, not a widely applicable way to discourage proselytizers, but remarkably effective. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8029 "2026-08-02T02:54:06Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > The ER doctors would probably also have access to better cutting tools. I’d be inclined to go with some sort of heavy duty and very sharp lopping shears. But I’d also be strongly inclined to let the hospital do it if at all possible. Also at the hospital there’d be better ways to keep the pole completely immobile while the cutting was done. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8030 "2026-08-02T06:08:45Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Wasn’t John Madden valued specifically for his expert analyses of the games? He was good, in the beginning. Like Romo. Him and Summerall made a great team. But like all things, Madden got worse in his later years. He got sloppy, he got boring, and he got repetitive. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8031 "2026-08-02T06:16:23Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > But like all things, Madden got worse in his later years. He got sloppy, he got boring, and he got repetitive. And he started leaning more into his schtick: the “BOOM!” persona, the ridiculous Frankenstein turkeys on Thanksgiving, the Maddencruiser, etc. He became a caricature of his earlier self. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8032 "2026-08-02T06:37:41Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > , the Maddencruiser, Yes! When it was just a means of transportation for someone who wouldn’t fly, I thought it was great. In those early years, it was just a motor home. Then it got a paint job, and became a thing unto itself. “Ooh the Maddencruiser is making an appearance!” Whoopy fucking do. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8033 "2026-08-02T13:04:58Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > I’ll never forget when someone pointed out to me that a record company could sell more music by selling it to people who don’t particularly like good music than they could to people who do. Adlai Stevenson when told that ‘the thinking voter is with you!’: Yes, but I need a majority. (More or less, too lazy to look it up) ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8034 "2026-08-02T18:19:35Z")
That change happened when he moved from CBS to Fox. I’m convinced he was told to emphasize the “Maddenisms”. I think he improved when he left Fox years later ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8035 "2026-08-03T00:57:50Z")
The important point to remember is that the four teens escaped being arrested by the police! > **[4 teens killed after pickup drives off overpass during police chase in...](https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2026/07/26/3-killed-car-crash-train-box-car-bedford-park-chicago-police-illinois-state-police)** > > Police radio traffic mentions someone inside the pickup truck had pointed a rifle at police prior to the crash, which occurred a few blocks south of Midway Airport. Has a few seconds of the pickup flying: > **[VIDEO: Pickup plunges off bridge on SW Side; 4 teens killed ID'd](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhfrpMSW238%2F)** > > Authorities have released the identities of four north suburban teens killed after a pickup truck plunged off a bridge on Cicero Avenue in Chicago.https://ab... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8036 "2026-08-03T01:20:33Z")
One of whom made that decision and three of whom were along for the final ride. Oops. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8037 "2026-08-03T10:47:20Z")
Made the decision, or just lost control of the vehicle? Not that it makes any difference to the results. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8038 "2026-08-03T11:59:45Z")
Made the decision to engage in a high speed fleeing. Some of those end safely. Many do not. The exact place and manner this one came to an end was doubtless unintentional and unpredictable. The bigger picture that fleeing will have a worse outcome than not fleeing are pretty clear, at least statistically speaking. That’s the root cause decision here. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8039 "2026-08-03T12:56:08Z")
Fair enough. I was imagining somebody who had seen too many chase scenes thinking ‘we’ll land unhurt on a train and be carried out of here where the cops can’t reach us’. No part of which would work in real life, of course. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/8040 "2026-08-03T14:08:06Z")
You certainly have a point. If the driver was thinking like movie chase scenes, all bets are off. My larger point was the three non-drivers (probably) had little input into their fate after they first got into the car. They might all be useless violent gangsta thugs, or somebody might’ve just been along for a fun late night with friends that surprised them by turning ugly. I know I don’t know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=401) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=403)