# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/81 "2024-01-17T20:39:08Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Well, I saw a tweet today from some very stupid white person married to a stupid white person who is claiming that the covid vaccine turned the baby in her belly into an Asian baby.
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> Yep, that explanation seems plausible.

Should have tried claiming she was abducted by aliens and they got her pregnant by some Asian dude.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/82 "2024-01-17T21:47:35Z")

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The key word is “within”. If something happens in two seconds, then it also happens within minutes, within hours, days, years etc.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/83 "2024-01-17T21:56:39Z")

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I mean technically, but what I was picturing was a grisly, slow death.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/84 "2024-01-17T22:01:07Z")

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Like this? 😄  
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer Movie Pee Wee Death (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT8vrKkS_wg&ab_channel=ShaveyaHead)

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/85 "2024-01-17T22:49:36Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Or… and you can call me crazy for having this idea - we could cut out the middleman and have this thing called a ‘government’ complete with proper bureaus, divisions, and such, properly fund it via fees and taxes, and make them responsible for doing the stuff like regulating and addressing child labor and food safety

as i understood it, those private audits are ON TOP of the ones done by labour inspection … kindalike an ISO9000 or other **voluntary/non-obligatory compliance audit** , like fair trade r whistleblowing policies, etc…

so its not an “either-or” situation but an “both… and…”

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/86 "2024-01-17T23:36:16Z")

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> [@Al128](#):
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> as i understood it, those private audits are ON TOP of the ones done by labour inspection …

The thing is that government inspections generally don’t happen. There’s just not enough people to do them. As the article noted, it would take decades to visit each company under the aegis of the DOL just _once_ at current staffing levels.

There’s now a multi-billion dollar business in providing independent audits to companies interested in having somebody say they’ve checked that box. It’s good PR and gives some legal cover (“our independent audit did not uncover any breach of regulations”). But in many if not most cases, they aren’t quite as ‘independent’ as all that.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/87 "2024-01-18T00:15:45Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> My Step-daughter is an independent auditor and is very meticulous. She doesn’t pull punches.

There are always some decent people doing the right thing _despite_ the perverse financial incentive to do the wrong thing. But the system is still fundamentally flawed.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/88 "2024-01-18T00:41:00Z")

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It does sound flawed, but I already mentioned what she does for a living, and I had to defend her honor. I know she would not turn a blind eye to children working in a place she audited.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/89 "2024-01-18T07:00:56Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > I guess this is also the place to post about evil MFers in the news.
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> Well, we’ve got a thread just for them - [Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496)

Thanks! I swear I searched for “evil” before posting.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/90 "2024-01-18T07:25:58Z")

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Well, there _is_ a shitload of evil here to get lost in.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/91 "2024-01-18T14:49:01Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> It was fake DNA! Someone got ahold of my DNA, then added it to someone else’s blood sample and stripped away the original DNA from THAT!!

Does anyone remember which show it was (Elementary, maybe? CSI?) where someone made a fake DNA sample that matched the required 13 alleles, but there was nothing else in it? No other DNA? A perfect fake, if you just trusted the base report.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/92 "2024-01-18T17:43:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Does anyone remember which show it was (Elementary, maybe? CSI?) where someone made a fake DNA sample that matched the required 13 alleles, but there was nothing else in it? No other DNA? A perfect fake, if you just trusted the base report.

That was Elementary. The episode involved inducing Hereditary CAA to rich people who did not have it in their families so that they would fund research into it.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/93 "2024-01-18T17:49:37Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> That was Elementary.

Ah! “Possibility Two.” I need to rewatch it!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/94 "2024-01-19T05:47:12Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Well, there _is_ a shitload of evil here to get lost in.

And, given the refent revelations about _Diaper Don_, we now know (volume-wise) exactly how much a _shitload_ is.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/95 "2024-01-19T08:32:51Z")

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10 metric shitloads = 1 fuckton

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**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/96 "2024-01-19T14:30:38Z")

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Cool. How much is 10 Imperial shitloads and/or 10 Freedom shitloads?

I’d guess that 10 Imperial shitloads = 1 long fuckton and 10 Freedom shitloads = 1 short fuckton, but I want to check

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/97 "2024-01-19T14:45:53Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Does anyone remember which show it was (Elementary, maybe? CSI?) where someone made a fake DNA sample that matched the required 13 alleles, but there was nothing else in it? No other DNA? A perfect fake, if you just trusted the base report.

But you’d need a sample of the DNA that you are trying to fake in order to know how to fake it. Were they doing this to amplify the sample so they could plant it a lot of it in different places? That’s the only reason I could imagine to do this, rather than just plant the sample you have directly.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/98 "2024-01-19T14:47:08Z")

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I’ll have to rewatch, but it made sense at the time.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/99 "2024-01-19T14:54:25Z")

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It’s this episode. I vaguely remember watching it now. Synthesizing the 13 loci to frame someone doesn’t really make any sense, it’s a plot point supporting the idea that a uniquely talented geneticist is the criminal mastermind.

> **[Possibility Two](https://cbselementary.fandom.com/wiki/Possibility_Two#Plot)**
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> Claire Diterzi - La Vieille Chanteuse plays when Holmes is trying to figure out the molecule model. Chopin - Prelude In B Minor, Op. 28, No. 6 is played on the piano by Mrs. Dunwoody. Eels - New Alphabet plays at episode end. Crabtree mentions that...

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/100 "2024-01-19T19:56:08Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> It’s this episode. I vaguely remember watching it now. Synthesizing the 13 loci to frame someone doesn’t really make any sense, it’s a plot point supporting the idea that a uniquely talented geneticist is the criminal mastermind.

The show **Instinct** used it as well. They just called it ‘synthetic blood’, left at a crime scene to frame someone.

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