# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1361 "2024-05-29T21:39:00Z")
The first time I flew after 9/11, I wanted to be sure I was clear on the rules, so I called up the airline (or maybe the airport). “The rules say nothing sharp is allowed, right?” “Right, absolutely nothing sharp” “Does that include pencils?” “Of course pencils are OK.” “But pencils are sharp.” “Oh, nothing at all sharp is allowed.” And back and forth this way a few times. And I don’t have a “tactical pen”, but I do have a “utility pen” that’s part of my daily carry. You can unscrew it to get small screwdrivers, Xacto-like knives, etc (nothing quick to deploy). I figure I probably could get it past a security checkpoint without anyone knowing what it is, but I don’t want to risk it. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1362 "2024-05-29T21:39:26Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Speaking as someone who was once an IV opioid addict and later practiced addiction medicine, it’s the user it makes sense to. In their mind, hearing of fatalities means the product has more bang for the buck, and that other user that died was a lightweight who didn’t know what they were doing, plus they’re currently jonesing so bad in the moment they’ll risk a hot shot (with its risks) for the expectation of immediate relief. Thanks for info! > [@Joey\_P](#): > > But would you have used opiates that someone told you they laced with meth or coke? More drugs equals more higher, but again, opposite directions. I guess the question is, is the mind working well enough to think in that fashion? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1363 "2024-05-29T21:50:10Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > But would you have used opiates that someone told you they laced with meth or coke? More drugs equals more higher, but again, opposite directions. Most likely I would have, if in withdrawal. Addict brains don’t work normally. Now I stuck with genuine pharmaceutical products (easier to get back in the 80’s when I was addicted) but acute withdrawal overcomes reason quite easily and my thinking was no different than other active addicts despite being overeducated. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1364 "2024-05-30T00:19:05Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Summary: Parents get a call from the day care that their kid is sick and they need to pick him up. They get there and he’s sick and bruised. They take him to the hospital, hospital finds drugs in his system. Cops find the same drugs at the daycare. I’d expect to see criminal charges come out of this, wouldn’t you? Especially if reports of the kid being bruised are correct – how did that happen? ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1365 "2024-05-30T00:29:52Z")
The kid probably got [too familiar with Charlie Murphy](https://youtu.be/ry2XlLKctiI). ![](https://media.tenor.com/QcZrQgzslL4AAAAM/rick-james.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1366 "2024-05-30T08:51:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Summary: Parents get a call from the day care that their kid is sick and they need to pick him up. They get there and he’s sick and bruised. They take him to the hospital, hospital finds drugs in his system. Cops find the same drugs at the daycare. Unfortunately, [not the first time](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-daycare-search-warrant/2014129/) this sort of thing has happened. [Not the second time](https://abc7chicago.com/divino-nino-daycare-bronx-death-opioid-exposure-nicholas-dominici/13794140/), either. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1367 "2024-05-30T14:34:25Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I mean, it looks like sugar. A friend stopped by once asking me to identify a white powder in a baggie. She had a job doing housecleaning and found the baggie partially under a guy’s couch. So she took it home with her!!! It looked like coke, but an ounce of cocaine was more than I was used to seeing. I’d seen grams. An ounce is 28 grams. I wet a finger, tasted it. It was coke! I told her how much money it was worth, and that the guy was going to go nuts. She went to his house later that evening and told him she had lost her contact lens case and asked if she could take a quick look around. She walked around his place, surreptitiously returned the baggie, and told him she found her contact case. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1368 "2024-05-30T14:42:32Z")
Reminds me of the comedian who put on an audience member’s jacket and found a bag of coke in the pocket. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yvkCHUmxGtk/hqdefault.jpg "Comedian Finds Cocaine in Heckler's Coat (Laughing Skull Lounge, ATL)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvkCHUmxGtk) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1369 "2024-05-30T15:02:03Z")
This is a couple days old, but I can’t find any reference to it: > **[American Airlines fires attorneys who said 9-year-old girl 'should have...](https://www.businessinsider.com/american-airlines-bathroom-camera-recording-lawsuit-lawyers-2024-5)** > > American Airlines has new representation after its legal team argued that a 9-year-old should have seen a camera in a plane bathroom. I put it here because (1) There had to be a lawyer in that firm rock-headed dumb enough to say “hey, let’s blame the little girl for negligence!!”, and (2) that presumably all the other lawyers in the firm just nodded their heads and agreed “that’s exactly the right move.” That is a whole lot of stupid MF’ing there. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1370 "2024-05-30T15:32:53Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > That is a whole lot of stupid MF’ing there. As a result of another thread here, I am reading Vincent Bugliosi’s book on OJ, “Outrage”. The author stated that there are virtually no competent lawyers in the country. It seemed to be obvious self-aggrandizement. Now I think he may have been right. Someone actually tried this “defense”! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1371 "2024-05-30T15:36:43Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > This is a couple days old, but I can’t find any reference to it: Paywalled. What happened? What did the say the girl did? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1372 "2024-05-30T15:39:34Z")
Some pervert flight attendant was hiding a phone in an aircraft lavatory and recording underage girls. The American Airlines lawyers argued that the 9 year old girl should have seen the light from the phone and known she was being recorded, thus absolving the airline in the matter. This was, to put it mildly, not a very well regarded defense. ETA: he was caught because a 14 year old actually did see the light from the phone and was initially gaslit about what it was there for. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1373 "2024-05-30T15:41:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > What happened? What did the say the girl did? from the article: American Airlines has new attorneys after previous lawyers said a 9-year-old should have realized she was being recorded in the bathroom by a flight attendant. Police arrested Thompson after a 14-year-old girl noticed a phone with its camera flashlight turned on in the bathroom on a flight from North Carolina to New York in September 2023, police say. He is facing federal charges of attempted sexual exploitation of children and possession of images of child sexual abuse. Attorneys representing American Airlines in that lawsuit claimed in court records this week that the 9-year-old “knew or should have known” that the bathroom “contained a visible and illuminated recording device,” absolving the airline of negligence. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1374 "2024-05-30T15:47:34Z")
“She should have noticed” should _never_ have been used as a defense against the suit, or as a way of blaming the girl. But it baffles me how she _didn’t_ notice. There was nothing whatsoever subtle about the placement. > **[A teen girl found an iPhone in an airplane bathroom. Her family says it was...](https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna105912)** > > The 14-year-old said the cell phone was taped to the back of a toilet seat. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1375 "2024-05-30T16:11:18Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Some pervert flight attendant was hiding a phone in an aircraft lavatory and recording underage girls. Wow. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > But it baffles me how she _didn’t_ notice. A nine-year-old might not have much experience with aircraft. Maybe she saw the light and just thought it was an airplane thing. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1376 "2024-05-30T16:15:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Maybe she saw the light and just thought it was an airplane thing. I think I’d think the same. Maybe a smoke detection device. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1377 "2024-05-30T16:58:07Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > I’ll go with toxic douchebag totally aware of the situation. In my legal jurisdiction, “toxic douchebag totally aware of the situation” == “gross negligence”. As in “I don’t give a fuck what the speed limit is” and killing an innocent bystander would be convicted as “grossly negligent manslaughter” or somesuch. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1378 "2024-05-30T16:58:43Z")
I’m in the habit of carrying a BiC pen like [these](https://www.amazon.com/BIC-Cristal-Smooth-Ballpoint-12-Count/dp/B00006IE6X/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1UMO81P6M4GEF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.R5wn2726RCsZcrXMePVlYtzBxVyj2xh61lKuax-mTJaQB4avzXJle4UzbSDSDb95y-sUMNqQf72XWhprGYcA-bZpVRKCLRpO0fBcoia9JQ7638GtdrNN-FWq59obNQZoh9eiTI1vEGy4aYIP8w_Wx3TUm2CS9WkNJjwOSFRTzWlullFmwFY4rkYjTnRhrrwXewqOYdvgxgXmPoERAbUC0tRyiVFYvFobcBnYrNmZgr7j1uA8NVKkDuSMdML7Nspei8FvfDszyA3C4s5_rRjCTBIwImolERuBsRkOWUNo6Sc.lK-v95N0Gpcadha8O_GSpohCGBEcDeYEb6LnSqg3NI0&dib_tag=se&keywords=BIC+pen&qid=1717087554&sprefix=bic+pen%2Caps%2C526&sr=8-13) on flights. Without that cap on the back end they can be placed in a hand such that the point extends out between the ring and middle fingers. A little something like a folded napkin can be used to pad the palm where the back end of the pen would be. Hey, who remembers the BiC pen commercials back in the '60s where a BiC pen was shot out of a hunting rifle, going through a 1 inch board? Back in 1996 a Bowhead whale killed 4 of my friends, by tipping over the sea kayak they were in, in Arctic waters. We know about it only because their native guide was wearing a survival suit and lived to tell the tale. Orcas are reputedly very smart; maybe they’re getting away with murder. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1379 "2024-05-30T17:01:41Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I think I’d think the same. Maybe a smoke detection device. Especially since you are hammered with warnings that disabling a smoke detector in an airplane lavatory is a crime. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1380 "2024-05-30T17:12:55Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > maybe they’re getting away with murder it is not “murder” if it is not the same species [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=70)