# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1441 "2024-06-07T00:20:55Z")
Maybe only 12 of them were angry? ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1442 "2024-06-07T00:33:35Z")
The rest were just slightly irritated so they don’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1443 "2024-06-07T00:53:21Z")
I’ve never seen 12 Angry Men, but I have a feeling that if there’d been a black actor in the main cast in 1957 it would have been a significant plot point and I would’ve heard about it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1444 "2024-06-07T00:55:51Z")
I’d love to see what their AI generates for [_Watermelon Man_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_Man_(film)) (Link goes to Wiki). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1445 "2024-06-07T01:15:14Z")
For that matter, I can’t wait to see what happens if someone verbally asks an AI assistant to generate a poster for a film with Dick Butkus. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1446 "2024-06-07T01:20:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’ve never seen 12 Angry Men, but I have a feeling that if there’d been a black actor in the main cast in 1957 it would have been a significant plot point and I would’ve heard about it. I’ve never seen the movie, but I’ve read the play. One of the characters is heavily implied to be a minority of some sort, and it is a relevant plot point (he knows that the police have a tendency to go hard on people like him and the defendant). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1447 "2024-06-07T01:38:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Yes it was. > > [Florida man threw live gator in Wendy's drive-thru window, police say](https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2016/02/10/florida-man-threw-live-gator-wendys-drive-thru-window-police-say/985469007/) > > It was a Wendy’s, maybe he tossed the gator in there so they could use it to make more chili. - What happened to giving someone the finger when you’re mad? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1448 "2024-06-07T02:20:18Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What happened to giving someone the finger when you’re mad? Well, birds are dinosaurs and gators are kind of like dinosaurs, so maybe that’s their way of flipping the bird? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1449 "2024-06-07T02:23:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@running\_coach](#): > > > > What happened to giving someone the finger when you’re mad? > > Well, birds are dinosaurs and gators are kind of like dinosaurs, so maybe that’s their way of flipping the bird? - [Backstory.](https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/wendys-chili-finger-lady-comes-clean/1884507/) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1450 "2024-06-07T02:24:41Z")
“Chili Finger Lady” is a horrifying nickname no matter the context. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1451 "2024-06-07T03:09:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > I’ve never seen 12 Angry Men, but I have a feeling that if there’d been a black actor in the main cast in 1957 it would have been a significant plot point and I would’ve heard about it. > > I’ve never seen the movie, but I’ve read the play. One of the characters is heavily implied to be a minority of some sort, and it is a relevant plot point (he knows that the police have a tendency to go hard on people like him and the defendant). Having seen the 1957 film with Henry Fonda (but not read the play), my impression was that the defendant is Puerto Rican. The juror @Chronos alludes to was played by a young Jack Klugman, who I think could be assumed to be one of the vaguely less reputable European ethnicities of the period, e.g., Polish or Italian. But not as “bad” as Puerto Rican or [gasp] black. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1452 "2024-06-07T04:43:19Z")
Good news, everyone. We don’t have to worry about Convict Donald becoming a dictator and throwing his enemies in jail any more. Dr. Phil convinced him it’s naughty. > ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1453 "2024-06-07T05:18:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I’ve never seen the movie, but I’ve read the play. One of the characters is heavily implied to be a minority of some sort, and it is a relevant plot point (he knows that the police have a tendency to go hard on people like him and the defendant). The twelve in the movie, from Wiki: - [Martin Balsam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Balsam) as Juror 1, the jury foreman; a calm and methodical assistant high school [football](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football) coach. - [John Fiedler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fiedler) as Juror 2, a meek and unpretentious bank teller who is easily flustered, but eventually stands up for himself. - [Lee J. Cobb](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_J._Cobb) as Juror 3, a hot-tempered owner of an answering service who is estranged from his son; the most passionate advocate of a “guilty” verdict. - [E. G. Marshall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._G._Marshall) as Juror 4, an unflappable, conscientious, and analytical stockbroker who is concerned only with facts, not opinions. - [Jack Klugman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Klugman) as Juror 5, a [Baltimore Orioles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Orioles) fan who grew up in a violent slum, and is sensitive to bigotry towards “slum kids”. - [Edward Binns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Binns) as Juror 6, a tough but principled and courteous house painter who stands up to others, especially over the elderly being verbally abused. - [Jack Warden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Warden) as Juror 7, a wisecracking salesman who is more concerned about the [Yankees](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees) game he is missing than the case. - [Henry Fonda](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Fonda) as Juror 8 (Davis), a humane, justice-seeking architect and father of three; initially, the only one to question the evidence and vote “not guilty”. - [Joseph Sweeney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Sweeney_(actor)) as Juror 9 (McCardle), a thoughtful and intelligent elderly man who is highly observant of the witnesses’ behaviors and their possible motivations. - [Ed Begley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Begley) as Juror 10, a pushy, loud-mouthed garage owner who is bigoted toward slum-life people. - [George Voskovec](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Voskovec) as Juror 11, a polite European watchmaker and naturalized American citizen who demonstrates strong respect for democratic values such as [due process](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process). - [Robert Webber](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Webber) as Juror 12, an indecisive and easily distracted advertising executive. The only two with names give them to each other on the courthouse steps as they are leaving. The defendant is [John Savoka](https://data:image/webp;base64,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It’s his sole credit in IMDb and is uncredited, as is everyone but the twelve jurors. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1454 "2024-06-07T05:26:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What happened to giving someone the finger when you’re mad? Throwing alligators at each other is a traditional greeting in the land of Florida. > [@Smapti](#): > > Dr. Phil convinced him it’s naughty. So we can add ‘politics’ to the infinite list of things that Dr. Phil knows jack shit about. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1455 "2024-06-07T09:54:16Z")
It was first brought up in the UK Politics thread but I think it belongs here too. I mean, it’s just easy political points and face time with world leaders. You’d have to be an idiot to mess this up. > **[General election latest: Rishi Sunak apologises for leaving D-Day events early...](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-69098963)** > > The prime minister had been criticised for leaving France ahead of an ITV election interview. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1456 "2024-06-07T10:53:50Z")
D’oh! It didn’t occur to me that Klugman’s character might be Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1457 "2024-06-07T11:51:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Amazon is using AI art to promote classic films. But why? There’s no shortage of promo pics and screen grabs from those movies. What’s the reasoning behind using AI to generate new ones? Also, is the Psycho one AI? It looks to me like one of the original posters. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1458 "2024-06-07T12:09:24Z")
Norman’s hands look quite odd to me in the AI poster. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1459 "2024-06-07T13:10:25Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > But why? There’s no shortage of promo pics and screen grabs from those movies. What’s the reasoning behind using AI to generate new ones? You fired the people in Art Direction who normally would look for a good stock pic to frame and crop, so you can instead have one script kiddie running your Amazon Choice image generator? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1460 "2024-06-07T13:14:25Z")
Except it’s about the same amount of work to write prompts for the image generators as it is to run searches on the databases of existing images. And these are classic movies, meaning they’ve been on the service forever-- Most of them already had pictures attached to the listings. I think it’s probably that Amazon wanted to make a public show of using AI because AI is new and trendy, and the problem is just that it’s not actually useful for anything, so they had to find something, anything, that they could use it for, even if it wasn’t very good at that, either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=74)