# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1461 "2024-06-07T13:27:28Z")

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What do you mean AI isn’t useful for anything?

**Mrs Magill’s** coders use it all the time to ~~steal~~ write code.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1462 "2024-06-07T14:29:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPWjmS1aAAAwTvf?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPWjmS1aAAAwTvf?format=jpg&name=large)

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Also, is the Psycho one AI? It looks to me like one of the original posters.

> [@Rebo](#):
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> Norman’s hands look quite odd to me in the AI poster.

They look exactly the same in the original poster.  
[![](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yycAAOxyyghQ6UN7/s-l1600.jpg) ](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yycAAOxyyghQ6UN7/s-l1600.jpg)  
[![](https://www.filmposters.com/images/posters/2977.jpg) ](https://www.filmposters.com/images/posters/2977.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1463 "2024-06-07T15:06:55Z")

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Ok. Well - still weird!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1464 "2024-06-07T15:22:23Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’ve never seen 12 Angry Men,

It’s well worth the watch. Maybe one of my favorite movies I have ever seen.

I don’t know what my takeaway was supposed to be, but my takeaway was how arbitrary and chance-dependent the justice process can be. Which is chilling.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1465 "2024-06-07T16:41:10Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Well - still weird!

One might say it looks… Psycho?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1466 "2024-06-07T17:31:45Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> They look exactly the same in the original poster.

Yeah, the image generator is just doing a straight swipe there. As is its nature, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1467 "2024-06-07T20:14:58Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > I’ve never seen 12 Angry Men,
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> It’s well worth the watch. Maybe one of my favorite movies I have ever seen.
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> I don’t know what my takeaway was supposed to be, but my takeaway was how arbitrary and chance-dependent the justice process can be. Which is chilling.

It feels a little too, well, programmed or manipulative for my taste. With a lot of stereotyping. And of course Henry Fonda doing his thoughtful, reasonable thing (and potentially causing a mistrial with at least one of his shenanigans). Anyway, it smells like propaganda for the jury system, “12 good men and true” to quote something else. (This is leaving aside why there were no women on the jury, I know there is a version of the play out there called “12 Angry Jurors” that has women roles in it.)

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1468 "2024-06-07T20:21:22Z")

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I mean I had the exact opposite takeaway. It made me lose confidence in the jury system.

I don’t know what the creators intended but I did not come away from that feeling good about our court system.

It seems significant to me that you never actually know whether the defendant is guilty or innocent. Just the blind biases that influence people’s opinions about it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1469 "2024-06-07T20:21:43Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> (This is leaving aside why there were no women on the jury

I mean, it was 1957. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that women just weren’t called for jury service in those days.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1470 "2024-06-07T20:26:36Z")

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Women had been on juries in New York since 1927 (according to Wikipedia).

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1471 "2024-06-07T20:28:44Z")

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Interesting. Based on my own quick Google I see that many states had an “opt-in” policy where women were excluded from jury pools unless they personally requested eligibility, so I would assume that in many places all-male juries were common and the filmmaker chose to go that route since it’s what viewers would expect.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1472 "2024-06-07T20:29:31Z")

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Yeah, but “10 Angry Men And 2 Pissed Off Women” wouldn’t fit on the marque.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1473 "2024-06-07T21:53:55Z")

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I won’t lie, that title is very intriguing and would make me want to see it more.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1474 "2024-06-08T01:37:06Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Henry Fonda doing his thoughtful, reasonable thing (and potentially causing a mistrial with at least one of his shenanigans)

Kind of funny, that. Just the year before _12 Angry Men_, Henry Fonda was the subject in the most terrifying Hitchcock move ever made, _The Wrong Man_. It might be interesting to watch those two movies in order of their release.

_I refuse to accept liability for damage caused to anyone who takes up my suggestion_

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1475 "2024-06-08T06:48:26Z")

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Oh, look, a robot dog with a flamethrower that’s available for sale to the public and is operated via a video game controller.

I can’t think of any way this could POSSIBLY go wrong.

> **[Thermonator](https://throwflame.com/products/thermonator-robodog/)**
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> Thermonator is the first-ever flamethrower-wielding robot dog. This quadruped is coupled with the ARC Flamethrower to deliver on-demand fire anywhere

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1476 "2024-06-08T08:21:06Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Isn’t Florida the same place someone robbed a drive-thru with an alligator?

Yep.

Here’s Shayne Smith’s take on it:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RHE9dUT6zyg/maxresdefault.jpg "Man Robs Wendy's with an Alligator - Shayne Smith") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHE9dUT6zyg)

Despite appearances Mr. Smith is not from Florida himself. If I recall correctly he’s from Utah but don’t quote me on that.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1477 "2024-06-08T10:15:54Z")

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Shayne Smith’s comedy is where I heard about it! You’re correct about where he’s from; his hometown is Fillmore, Utah. IIRC, he grew up Jewish. I know he converted to Roman Catholicism and was baptized this year. I wonder what it was like growing up Jewish in that town.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1478 "2024-06-08T10:34:45Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> But why? There’s no shortage of promo pics and screen grabs from those movies. What’s the reasoning behind using AI to generate new ones?

> This has been misattributed by some Twitter/X users as an issue on Amazon’s Prime Video, but the incorrect A.I. poster is actually on Amazon’s FAST channel (free ad-supported streaming TV), Freevee. Though they’re owned by the same parent company, Prime Video has a real poster for the Henry Fonda-fronted film. This discrepancy between the two posters seems to be a licensing rights issue. A source explained to _The A.V. Club_ that the service licenses _12 Angry Men_ from a third party, which is responsible for the images that accompany the film. Though MGM (which is owned by Amazon) seems to have some form of distribution rights for _12 Angry Men_, older movies have more complicated licensing stemming from third-party distribution deals and Blu-ray and DVD remasterings.

> **[Amazon’s Freevee has A.I.-generated 12 Angry Men poster, for some reason](https://www.avclub.com/amazon-freevee-12-angry-men-artificial-intelligence-1851523558)**
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> It's a complete mystery why Freevee is using an A.I. image with 19 scary guys on it as the poster for 12 Angry Men

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1479 "2024-06-08T12:56:04Z")

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LEGO thieves busted in California.

> **[Authorities bust LEGO theft ring, find over 2,800 toys at home in Long Beach,...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/06/07/lego-theft-ring-california-long-beach/74014377007/)**
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> Nearly 3,000 stolen LEGO toys were recovered inside a Long Beach, California home. Two were arrested in connection to the theft ring, police say.

Here’s a choice quote from the article:

> While at the scene, investigators saw people show up to buy the toys. They’d seen advertisements Siegel posted online.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1480 "2024-06-08T13:15:13Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I mean I had the exact opposite takeaway. It made me lose confidence in the jury system.

Yeah, if Eight hadn’t been there, the defendant would have been found guilty. Not every jury has someone like him on it.

Re @Railer13 's article, I’m really curious about what “nearly 3000 toys” means. Clearly, Lego are toys, but is “one toy” a single brick (or other piece), or is it one complete kit? Some of the larger kits can have more than that number of pieces in a single box. And there are websites where one can find individual Lego pieces (usually the rarer ones, though I’m sure those sites would be happy to sell you a red 2x4 brick if you asked).

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