# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1521 "2024-06-12T19:31:24Z")
I love that scene. She’s so understanding. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1522 "2024-06-12T20:36:46Z")
Look at the date more closely. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1523 "2024-06-12T20:47:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Today during the racketeering trial of rapper Young Thug in Atlanta, Thug’s attorney revealed that he had learned of a secret meeting between the judge, the prosecutor, and a star witness in the judge’s chambers, in which the witness was threatened with indefinite detention if he refused to testify against Thug. > > The judge then had the defense attorney arrested for refusing to say how he found out about this highly improper meeting. Yeah, that sounds completely inappropriate on the defense attorney’s part. You can’t just go making allegations like that without evidence. And besides, how would he have found out? Obviously neither the judge nor the prosecutor would have told him, which means that, if it happened, it had to have come from the witness. But if the witness is willing to tell the defense attorney (in a situation where it’d be clear it was him telling it), then he’d also be willing to tell it on the stand. The only reasonable conclusion is that the defense attorney was just making the whole thing up. And how is that not contempt of court? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1524 "2024-06-12T21:02:54Z")
Some South African dude [laid off some Australians](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/musks-x-demands-money-from-laid-off-employees-claims-they-were-overpaid/) from his US company, but there was a miscalculation in terms of AU$-\>US$ that netted the laid-off employees $70k, which the SA dude now wants back. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1525 "2024-06-12T21:07:22Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Look at the date more closely. The idea of a Scarlett Johansson robot is disturbing enough to begin with without bringing a date into the equation. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1526 "2024-06-12T21:23:24Z")
Well, I for one would date her, if she’d let me. The real one, not the robot. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1527 "2024-06-12T22:51:49Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Well, I for one would date her, if she’d let me. I’m not sharing with Colin Jost. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1528 "2024-06-12T22:59:05Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The idea of a Scarlett Johansson robot is disturbing enough to begin with without bringing a date into the equation. He wouldn’t needed the robot if he could get a date. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1529 "2024-06-12T23:13:30Z")
He wouldn’t need a date if he could get the robot. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1530 "2024-06-12T23:41:50Z")
No one has asked the most important question. Can the robot do housework? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1531 "2024-06-12T23:49:27Z")
Unfortunately, for the judge, he admitted that the meeting happened (though I suspect your tongue is in cheek). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1532 "2024-06-13T00:24:48Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Look at the date more closely. Bah! Humbug! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1533 "2024-06-13T00:47:42Z")
Oh, was there some other article that had that in it? Because the one that @Smapti linked doesn’t actually say that. It has the judge saying that the defense attorney has information he shouldn’t have, but he doesn’t say that the information is true. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1534 "2024-06-13T00:50:22Z")
> [@](#): > > “You got some information you shouldn’t have gotten,” Glanville told the rapper’s attorney earlier in the day before directing a courtroom deputy to take Steel into custody… > > “If that’s true what this is is coercion, witness intimidation, ex parte communications that we have a constitutional right to be present for,” an outraged Steel told Glanville. > > “I still want to know, how did you come upon this information,” Glanville asked. “Who told you?”… > > He called the leaked information about the meeting “such a violation of the sacrosanctness of the judge’s chambers.” > [@](#): > > “You got the information in a way that was not lawful to begin with,” Glanville told him. “If and when the case gets reviewed, an appellate court will make these decisions.” > > Schardt snapped back. > > “All I’m asking for is some sunlight,” he said. “We’d like the transcript … We are trying this case right now to win this case. We are not playing for an appeal. We would like a fair shot at this case right now.” > > Waiting for the appeals process to play out could take decades, Schardt contended. > > Glanville said there was “nothing that was improper” about the ex parte conversation in his chambers. What could that possibly mean if it isn’t an acklowedgement that the meeting took place? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1535 "2024-06-13T01:05:40Z")
It’s the judge calling the attorney’s bluff, because there’s no way that he could have legitimately heard of such a thing. Also note that the judge can’t come out and deny that the meeting happened for the same reason he can’t come out and admit it: If you want to be able to keep meetings confidential, then you can’t ever say one way or the other if they happened. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1536 "2024-06-13T01:11:30Z")
Saying there was nothing improper about a meeting wasn’t a hypothetical- it was an admission (if the judge wanted to make his statement a hypothetical, he could have). And judges and prosecutors shouldn’t be having secret meetings with witnesses, anyway. Ex parte meetings are forbidden - so saying that the ex parte meeting was not improper is ridiculous on its face. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1537 "2024-06-13T03:21:16Z")
> [@](#): > > “I still want to know, how did you come upon this information,” Glanville asked. “Who told you?” > > … > > “You got the information in a way that was not lawful to begin with,” Glanville told him. “If and when the case gets reviewed, an appellate court will make these decisions.” It sounds rather like the judge is asking the attorney to implicate himself in a crime. Isn’t that kind of a no-no? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1538 "2024-06-13T03:34:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Also note that the judge can’t come out and deny that the meeting happened for the same reason he can’t come out and admit it: If you watch the video of the trial, the judge says the meeting happened and was proper. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1539 "2024-06-13T11:28:45Z")
And per the Post, the prosecutor’s office also acknowledged that the meeting happened > **[Young Thug’s attorney held in contempt, ordered jailed in Georgia case](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/06/10/young-thug-attorney-contempt-brian-steel/)** > > Brian Steel, who represents the Atlanta rapper, was held in contempt after he accused the judge and prosecutors of an improper meeting with a key witness. > Adriane Love, an assistant Fulton County district attorney and the lead prosecutor on the case, also denied any wrongdoing, stating for the record that the meeting between the judge, prosecutors and Copeland had been held to address the contempt claim against Copeland. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1540 "2024-06-13T11:32:09Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s the judge calling the attorney’s bluff, because there’s no way that he could have legitimately heard of such a thing. Also note that the judge can’t come out and deny that the meeting happened for the same reason he can’t come out and admit it: If you want to be able to keep meetings confidential, then you can’t ever say one way or the other if they happened. A number of attorneys on the Internet have pointed out how improper the meeting was and how it’s apparent that the judge admits that there was a meeting. The entire video can be seen [here](https://www.youtube.com/live/A7bVPfeNzVg?si=WpX-ofJQOvNqDeuc&t=5493), which is cued up to Mike’s comments on how entirely inappropriate the judge’s actions were. The stream starts about half way through. Judges simply should not be having an _ex parte_ meeting (An ex parte communication occurs when a party to a case, or someone involved with a party, talks or writes to or otherwise communicates directly with the judge about the issues in the case without the other parties’ knowledge) with the prosecution and a witness who has already been sworn in during the middle of a court case. Quite a few attorneys have all expressed how shocking and completely inappropriate this is. The guess is that the witness’s lawyer told the attorney in question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=78)