# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1541 "2024-06-13T12:14:30Z")
I’ve only been half following this saga, but do we know where this meeting took place? The judge is demanding the lawyer tells him how he found out about it, almost in a ‘who squealed’ way. That, at least to me, suggests they did this in some ‘secret’ location where they didn’t expect to be found out. But isn’t it possible that they did it somewhere public and someone saw them? Actually, I see one article that quotes the judge as saying [“How did you get that information supposedly from my chambers? Did somebody tell you?”](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/arts/music/young-thug-brian-steel-trial.html), so I guess there’s that. The next question is, are the judge’s chambers so private that no one would have seen who was coming and going? Is it possible it was another lawyer who happened to see them meeting and reported back to Steel? I also found this [“Judge Granville announced a Show Cause order to everyone present for the conversation to prove that they were not the source of the leaked information or they will be held in contempt.”](https://thesource.com/2024/06/12/ysl-trial-update-judge-glanville-determined-to-find-out-who-told-young-thugs-lawyer-about-controversial-private-meeting/) I feel like were going to find out this is a terrible judge and this isn’t the first time he’s done something stupid/illegal and punished the people that caught him, but it’s the first time one of the involved parties was in the public eye. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1542 "2024-06-13T12:15:56Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > And judges and prosecutors shouldn’t be having secret meetings with witnesses, anyway. Ex parte meetings are forbidden - so saying that the ex parte meeting was not improper is ridiculous on its face. Ah, OK, that’s the part that I was missing. Yeah, that turns the whole thing around the other way. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1543 "2024-06-13T12:16:06Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > The guess is that the witness’s lawyer told the attorney in question. Or someone in DA staff. And the defense lawyer would be honorably refusing to out the source in the divulgation. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1544 "2024-06-13T12:18:21Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > And the defense lawyer would be honorably refusing to imply the witness’ lawyer in the divulgation. And do they even need to reveal their source given the judge has admitted it happened? If he asked for proof of the meeting, that would be one thing, but he’s demanding to know how Steel found out about the meeting. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1545 "2024-06-13T12:23:38Z")
Can whoever told the attorney just give him ten bucks and therefore be protected by attorney-client privilege? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1546 "2024-06-13T12:27:30Z")
No problem - glad to help ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1547 "2024-06-13T13:25:20Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I also found this [“Judge Granville announced a Show Cause order to everyone present for the conversation to prove that they were not the source of the leaked information or they will be held in contempt.”] How are they supposed to prove that they weren’t the source? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1548 "2024-06-13T13:39:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “such a violation of the sacrosanctness of the judge’s chambers.” That just begs for a response of “what about the sacrosanctness of THESE chambers, where the trial is being held?” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1549 "2024-06-13T16:42:28Z")
Haha… That was maybe my favorite Saul Goodman moment from _Breaking Bad_ (though I think it was only a dollar) but apparently it doesn’t really work that way. If you think about it, a _pro bono_ case involves not paying the lawyer anything yet clearly privilege would exist then too. I also love the cojones of the judge who is threatening to throw someone in contempt for squealing on the judge for violating someone’s constitutional rights. > _“You don’t get to extort the court. It doesn’t work that way,”_ he said. This has _got_ to end up in a mistrial I’m thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1550 "2024-06-13T18:34:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you think about it, a _pro bono_ case involves not paying the lawyer anything yet clearly privilege would exist then too. I don’t think it’s the payment but rather the agreement that allows for the attorney/client privilege. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1551 "2024-06-13T18:39:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I don’t think it’s the payment but rather the agreement that allows for the attorney/client privilege. Exactly! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1552 "2024-06-13T21:56:22Z")
> **[Photographer Disqualified From AI Image Contest After Winning With Real Photo](https://petapixel.com/2024/06/12/photographer-disqualified-from-ai-image-contest-after-winning-with-real-photo/)** > > The photographers strike back. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1553 "2024-06-13T23:01:43Z")
That tickles me all the way down to my toes. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1554 "2024-06-14T01:09:52Z")
As for Scarlet Johansson, she’s now threatening a lawsuit against OpenAI for supposedly imitating her voice for one of their voice options. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/YhgYMH6n004/maxresdefault.jpg "OpenAI Stole Scarlet Johansson's Voice") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhgYMH6n004) And the creepy sexbot is briefly mentioned early in that video. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1555 "2024-06-14T01:57:20Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > This has _got_ to end up in a mistrial I’m thinking. And hopefully somebody digging deeply into this judges conduct in his case record? If I were anywhere around that judge, I would be terrified right now. Or am I overthinking this? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1556 "2024-06-14T03:10:29Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Or am I overthinking this? I don’t think so because it’s so egregious. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1557 "2024-06-14T14:45:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [Photographer Disqualified From AI Image Contest After Winning With Real Photo | PetaPixel](https://petapixel.com/2024/06/12/photographer-disqualified-from-ai-image-contest-after-winning-with-real-photo/) This is getting seriously roasted on Reddit > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1dfkzj1/well_well_well_how_the_turntables/?rdt=38793)** ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1558 "2024-06-14T14:47:06Z")
Not going to jail [anytime soon](https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/young-thug-trial-brian-steel-jail-georgia-supreme-court-ruling). > [@](#): > > Young Thug trial: Rapper’s lawyer won’t go to jail after Georgia Supreme Court grants bond > > Brian Steel, the attorney for [Atlanta rapper Young Thug](https://www.fox5atlanta.com/tag/people/young-thug), will not have to spend Father’s Day in jail after he was found in contempt of court. > > In a ruling on Wednesday, the Georgia Supreme Court granted Steel’s emergency motion staying Judge Ural Glanville’s order holding the lawyer in criminal contempt. > > The court also agreed to hear Steel’s case at a future time. Until Steel’s appeal is completed, the court will allow him to remain out of custody. Apprently, the procecutor took the reluctant witness into the judge’s chamber to threaten him for not being as cooperative as they wanted him to be. One repost said the judge assisted the prosecution in the argument against the witness. There apparently was a court reporter making a record of the meeting. I can’t see how this is going to end well for either the judge or a prosecution. > [@Jihi](#): > > And hopefully somebody digging deeply into this judges conduct in his case record? I haven’t followed the case at all up into this blew up, but it looks like it took more than 10 months to seat a jury! That’s insane. There are complaints that he can’t control the lawyers. > [@Atamasama](#): > > This has _got_ to end up in a mistrial I’m thinking. The only saving grace is that this all has been done outside the presence of the jury. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1559 "2024-06-14T18:55:38Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > I haven’t followed the case at all up into this blew up, but it looks like it took more than 10 months to seat a jury! That’s insane. I bet that Trump wishes he had this lawyer instead of Merchan in New York. > [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think so because it’s so egregious. Thank you for that. When I initially was reading the story I was thinking about every single other person in that room that may not necessarily have anything to do with the case. Court staff, journalists possibly in the room, just random employees who work in the same building, etc… If I was a random janitor working in the building around this judge I would be taking great pains to document where and when I am at all times. That feels slightly paranoid to me but it’s honestly how I would feel. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1560 "2024-06-14T19:21:30Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > There apparently was a court reporter making a record of the meeting. I can’t see how this is going to end well for either the judge or a prosecution. I hope I’m not a bad person for hoping that both the judge and the prosecutor will see some jail time over this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657.md?page=79)