# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657 "2024-01-05T16:15:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1961 "2024-07-25T21:13:36Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Thing is, he nearly hit a plane coming in on approach because he refused to get clearance from the tower.

Possible nitpick - from how the article worded it I suspect the airport in question does not have a tower. In which case it is _even more_ important to follow standard procedures and traffic flow.

Also from the the way the article is written I’m wondering if he had a pilot _certificate_ (a.k.a “license”) but not a current _medical clearance_ to fly. And de-registering a Piper Cherokee is just… stupid. There is a category of aircraft you can fly in the US that doesn’t require a license or medical but a Piper Cherokee absolutely does not meet the requirements for that. It would be like claiming a Ford 150 is a moped. It’s just not.

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Palmer Municipal Airport appears to be an ~~out-of-control~~ uncontrolled airport. No tower. But you’re supposed to announce your intentions over Unicom.

Some of us like to call those “pilot controlled airports” - regardless, it’s vital to follow proper procedures and traffic flows.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1962 "2024-07-26T00:07:37Z")

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I say Texas tops Alaska in the loony department. I have a friend who was initially told, by the Texas DMV, that he Alaska driver’s license was not acceptable because Alaska is a foreign country, not a US state.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1963 "2024-07-26T00:12:25Z")

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SovCits like him need to be thoroughly curb-stomped by the judicial system, if only to protect the rest of society from them.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1964 "2024-07-26T01:03:55Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Alaska is a foreign country, not a US state.

We used to get that nonsense from time to time. I tried to order a wreath from an online store once and it was rejected. I called the company and got some knot-head who kept telling me that they weren’t allowed by customs to ship outside the country.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1965 "2024-07-26T11:31:16Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> some knot-head who kept telling me that they weren’t allowed by customs to ship outside the country.

To be fair, items do leave the country do have to spend some time outside the US in order to get to Alaska.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1966 "2024-07-26T12:27:53Z")

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By that definition, anything that ships by air is “leaving the country”. 😆

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1967 "2024-07-26T20:12:19Z")

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Advice. Don’t be a Russian agent. And if you must be a Russian agent, don’t get drunk. And if you absolutely must get drunk, don’t get drunk and tell people in France you’re a Russian agent sent to screw with the Olympics while they’re happening in France.

> **[Russian chef and spy busted with plan to destabilize Paris Olympics -...](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/world/3100526/russian-chef-and-spy-busted-plan-destabilize-paris-olympics/)**
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> French authorities arrested a Russian chef and spy who had plans to disrupt the Paris Olympics.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1968 "2024-07-26T20:15:58Z")

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You’d think that’d be the first thing they teach you in spy school.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1969 "2024-07-26T20:19:58Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> You’d think that’d be the first thing they teach you in spy school.

Really. From the article:

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> He had been tight-lipped on the alleged plot against the Summer Olympics, until he told neighbors while drunk that he was on special assignment to disrupt the opening ceremony, according to witnesses. When the neighbors did not believe him, he then showed them his FSB identification card as further proof.

You’d think think that a _Russian_ spy was taught how to drink and not spill the beans.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1970 "2024-07-26T20:26:35Z")

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For all there other faults, spying is something Russia’s pretty good at. I have to think that this is either a stupid prank from someone completely unaffiliated with Russia, or some sort of multi-level devious plan.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1971 "2024-07-26T20:45:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> For all there other faults, spying is something Russia’s pretty good at.

Maybe, maybe not.

> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> > he then showed them his FSB identification card as further proof.

Do real spies carry their spy ID?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1972 "2024-07-26T20:46:20Z")

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Well, 007 always has his licence to kill on him.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1973 "2024-07-26T20:46:31Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Do real spies carry their spy ID?

It’s the only way you can get your spy discount.

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**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1974 "2024-07-26T20:49:52Z")

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Hertz is never going to rent you the Fiat 500 with the rocket launchers if you don’t show ID

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1975 "2024-07-26T20:56:17Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> For all there other faults, spying is something Russia’s pretty good at. I have to think that this is either a stupid prank from someone completely unaffiliated with Russia, or some sort of multi-level devious plan.

It very well could be. It doesn’t even have to be a huge number of levels, when two levels would suffice. Often, Russia wants to be found out when they instigate terrorism/disarray. Unlike most countries they don’t want any plausible deniability as to who perpetrated it (while of course wanting to leave enough _im_plausible deniability that their allies aren’t embarrassed to associate with them).

It might be easier to sow fear at the Olympics, and by extension, open fear of Russia, by simply admitting to such a plan than to actually follow through with the plan.

Or he could just be a drunk idiot.

EDIT: thought of a third possibility. They had a big plan to carry out when they realized it just wouldn’t work, and then,. rather than scrap it entirely, try to salvage some of it by this scheme.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1976 "2024-07-26T21:08:44Z")

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Hmmm. Russia, too?

> **[Arson attack on French rail network brings travel chaos ahead of Olympic...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/paris-2024-olympics-opening-ceremony-france-rail-malicious-acts-rcna163768)**
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> SNCF Chairman and CEO Jean-Pierre Farandou told reporters that fiber optic cables in at least three locations had been set on fire.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1977 "2024-07-26T21:17:40Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> You’d think think that a _Russian_ spy was taught how to drink and not spill the beans.

A Russian spy is taught how to drink _vokda…_ once he got to Paris, he was helpless against Kir Royale and elderflower cordials like St‑Germain.

“Another _dry white wine that goes well with feesh,_ comrade?”

“Da! Uh, I mean, wee-wee-wee… DId I ever tell you about the plot to keel Moose and Squirrel?”

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1978 "2024-07-26T21:52:21Z")

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A couple decides to take some photos on “death rocks”.

> **[Two die after being swept off rocks in Santa Cruz](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-07-18/two-killed-after-being-swept-off-rocks-in-santa-cruz)**
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> Two people died after they were swept into the ocean by a 'sneaker wave' in Santa Cruz this week, according to authorities.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1979 "2024-07-26T22:12:02Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> A couple decides to take some photos on “death rocks”.

And per the article:

> Oatey said there were warning signs in place that discourage people from getting near the rocks.

“Surely nothing will happen to **us** …”

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1980 "2024-07-26T22:19:20Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Often, Russia wants to be found out when they instigate terrorism/disarray.

Why would Russia want to disrupt the Opening Ceremonies of the Olympics? Whether it becomes known that they are behind it, all it’s going to do is piss people off. I don’t see what strategic benefit they would get from it. It’s not like they need the publicity.

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