# Omnibus Super Bowl XLVI Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 23, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425 "2012-01-23T19:51:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/101 "2012-02-06T03:01:29Z")

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10 months of Giants fans beating their chest.

Well at least talk of Tom Brady as the best ever will be muted.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/102 "2012-02-06T03:02:10Z")

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Anyone have a video link to the winning touchdown?

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/103 "2012-02-06T03:02:12Z")

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That was easily the most entertaining game I have seen in a very long time.  
Down to the wire, with a running back failing to FAIL to get into the end zone.  
An amazing reception that totally turned the game around.  
And a totally fascinating last 59 seconds.

Wow!

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/104 "2012-02-06T03:02:37Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Oh bullshit. They won the NFC East, beat Atlanta at home, then beat Green Bay and San Francisco on the road. They earned the right to play in the Superbowl, and they beat the Patriots fair and square.

They were a 9-7 team that lost to the Redskins in week 15 homey. Find me a worse team that won the Super Bowl. Honestly

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/105 "2012-02-06T03:02:57Z")

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And I don’t have to hear that stupid Tom Brady song on the drive to work tomorrow. (I switch between ESPN and NPR.)

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/106 "2012-02-06T03:05:07Z")

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So, what’s the over/under on the number of “Elite” headlines tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/107 "2012-02-06T03:05:52Z")

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> [@IAmNotSpartacus](#):
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> …  
> Well at least talk of Tom Brady as the best ever will be muted.

This is the only good to come out of this.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/108 "2012-02-06T03:10:39Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> This is the only good to come out of this.

Maybe it’ll shut everyone up about Belichick for a while as well. Seriously, the guy extending the break in practice to 30 minutes is neither news nor a brilliant idea.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/109 "2012-02-06T03:13:04Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> The Giants are the worst team to ever win it, that’s for sure.

Or the Giants were the best team to ever go 9-7. That record doesn’t make a lot of sense given how amazing they have looked.

I thought the Giants would win by more before the game. The Patriots played well and the Giants weren’t at their best, but the Giants won anyway.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/110 "2012-02-06T03:17:38Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> The Giants are the worst team to ever win it, that’s for sure. They didn’t deserve to be anywhere near this game.

Awwww… that’s kind of cute. If it makes you feel better, you keep on believing that.

For my part, congrats to the most exciting and likable Giants team since 1986.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/111 "2012-02-06T03:18:04Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I had no dog in this fight, but I DID have a rabid Patriots fan who worked for the Army Corps of Engineers who made my life hell for eight months, and made my final job the worst I ever had. I hope you’re crying, motherfucker. I hope this ruined your entire week. I only wish I could see your face when that last pass failed. Fuck you.

A week?! I thought you yanks cared about this game! I still have nightmares about the 53 minute of the game on july 11th 2010. It was a good game though, was rooting for the Pats, but just found out I don’t really care either way:p.

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**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/112 "2012-02-06T03:19:17Z")

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This is a great day for people who hate the Patriots.

Oh, and The Giants. It’s a good day for them, too.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/113 "2012-02-06T03:19:58Z")

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Giants probably were not the best team in the nfl this year but likely were the best team when it mattered.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/114 "2012-02-06T03:20:44Z")

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> [@IAmNotSpartacus](#):
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> Well at least talk of Tom Brady as the best ever will be muted.

That was what, 4 straight drops at the end for the Pats? Not his fault; blame Welker, Hernandez, Branch, and Gronk.

The Giants made fewer mistakes, won the championship, and are therefore the best team in the NFL. Hats off to 'em; they got it done when they needed to get it done and nobody else did.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/115 "2012-02-06T03:36:08Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> That was what, 4 straight drops at the end for the Pats? Not his fault; blame Welker, Hernandez, Branch, and Gronk.

Honestly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many different receivers drop passes for the same team in such a short period of time. Brady was throwing passes right into the chest and they were dropping them. It was something to behold.

I mean, when it comes down to it, the Giants won because they could actually catch the damn football. Pretty basic skill. If you can catch and the other team can’t, you deserve to win.

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/116 "2012-02-06T03:36:57Z")

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Well, in Branch’s defense, it was tipped. That Welker drop killed them. Going to eat at them both for a long time.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/117 "2012-02-06T03:37:09Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Giants probably were not the best team in the nfl this year but likely were the best team when it mattered.

They won the Superbowl. That makes them the best team in the NFL. They won the games they had to win to get there, and they won the big one.

Or, more succinctly:

Scoreboard.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/118 "2012-02-06T03:38:23Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Brady has never had to do this in a Super Bowl. He’s always just needed a field goal.

If memory serves, _nobody_ has had to do that except Eli Manning. I remember reading an article shortly after the 2007 Superbowl that talked about how no quarterback as ever had the ball in the closing minutes while down by 4-6 points. Meaning: Touchdown you win, otherwise you lose. The one line I remember so clearly from that article was “Eli stands alone.”

That’s enough to google it: [Eli stands alone](http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2167_Eli_stands_alone.html).

Now there have been two chances, one for Eli and one for Brady. And if I had to bet, I’d guess either Big Ben or Kurt Warner had a similar situation in the 2008 Superbowl.

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**Author:** ![davidw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@davidw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidw)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/119 "2012-02-06T03:43:35Z")

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The Patriots, Colts and Steelers have dominated the AFC over the past 10 years or so. They were led by Brady and Peyton Manning, two QBs in the conversation for greatest QB ever, and Ben Roethlisberger, who’s been a top-5 QB (not all-time) for most of his time in the league. All three are great 4th quarter QBs. Yet over the last three years, each of those QBs has had the ball in their hand with the chance to win the Super Bowl, and they all failed. Brady tonite, Ben went 4-and-out last year to end the Super Bowl, Peyton threw a game-killing INT the year before that to lose the game. I find that kinda interesting.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-super-bowl-xlvi-thread/610425/120 "2012-02-06T03:46:43Z")

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Ugh. That was another great Super Bowl finish, which seems to be the story of the Pats for the last decade…but as someone who adopted them as a second team, that was tough to watch. The only relatively funny thing is that I live in Foxboro, and only 5 minutes after the game ended traffic on my street increased 10x as parties immediately broke up. The last time they won, people didn’t scurry home so quickly…

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