# Omnibus thread for how the current admin is sticking it to the poor & middle-class **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763 "2018-02-13T14:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/61 "2018-02-15T04:42:57Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > On the other hand, Trump (as disgusting and vile as the big orange cheetoh is) never tried to scam a message board about getting air-conditioning only for it later to come out that the problem was his bunnies might get a little warm. > > So…really, the only difference between you and Trump is that you’re a less successful scammer. [Fuck off, troll.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19661465&postcount=24) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/62 "2018-02-15T12:37:43Z")
Yup. You posted that, Little Donald. It was like…what? the 43d version of your story? Other versions didn’t include your SO being sick. Protip–if you’re going to try to make up excuses for scamming Dopers, pick one story and stick to it, don’t just keep making stuff up and seeing if it gets you off the hook. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/63 "2018-02-15T16:34:01Z")
Nope, not getting drawn into your bullshit again. Howl all you want, I can’t hear you. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/64 "2019-03-18T13:14:57Z")
Having been on the EBT program, I can tell you this is also going to have a very bad negative effect on the recipients. I least I could choose what I wanted to eat, in a lot when my life choices were extremely limited. Food baskets given out by private places are fine, but I need to be able to have some foods that I really like. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/65 "2019-03-18T14:05:54Z")
Back in 1970 when my wife and I were newly married and poor, we had a welfare mother living in the apartment above us. She got commodities including powdered milk and bulgar, neither of which she would use. IIRC, she got five twenty quart boxes of milk every month. We gave her a buck a piece for them. At the time, store-bought powdered milk was probably around $3.00 for a twenty quart box. The bulgar she just gave to us. My wife didn’t know what to do with it so she went to the library and looked up recipes for it. For the last 48+ years we have a few very hearty winter meals using bulgar. We saved a fair amount that way. Commodities have been tried. Food stamps are easier. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/66 "2019-03-18T14:28:05Z")
Also, food stamps are often used in conjunction with state run WIC (women infants children) programs. Those programs have a highly restricted food list. In my state (NY) they used to give out coupons for specific items -2 quarts fresh juice, 1 gallon whole or skim milk, a dozen eggs. Now it looks like it’s a card based system but limited to a small list of healthy foods. Most families I know that use food assistance get their staples from WIC coupons and use the food stamps for other food. Along with their own money. I don’t know anyone that gets a full food stamp ride. I think my brother gets food stamps to the tune of $25 a month. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/67 "2019-03-18T18:07:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump and DeVos call for massive cuts to college student aid programs > [http://wapo.st/2o3GjJz](http://wapo.st/2o3GjJz) > College should be for people who can afford it, okay? [Today’s brilliant plan](https://apnews.com/2714f2a2b11143cfad16493a2f07c82a) calls for putting a cap on how much people can borrow for college _as a means of controlling the cost of college_. > [@](#): > > The Trump administration is proposing new limits on student borrowing as part of a broader plan to curb the cost of college. > > White House officials announced the plan Monday amid a list of education priorities as Congress sets out to overhaul the Higher Education Act. > > The plan says Congress should put a cap on federal student loans to prevent borrowers from taking on unmanageable debt. Officials didn’t propose specific limits but said it could vary by academic program. > > The White House also wants to combine five loan repayment options into one plan that would cap monthly payments at 12.5 percent of a borrower’s discretionary income. > > Trump’s oldest daughter and adviser Ivanka Trump said the plan aims to “modernize our higher education system to make it more affordable, flexible and outcomes-oriented.” 😕:smack: Oh yeah: that sounds like a logical plan that will totally have that effect. :rolleyes::dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/68 "2019-03-18T18:29:58Z")
We should try that with mortgages in order to keep the price of houses down. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/69 "2019-03-18T19:25:56Z")
ikr ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763/70 "2019-03-18T19:38:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Today’s brilliant plan](https://apnews.com/2714f2a2b11143cfad16493a2f07c82a) calls for putting a cap on how much people can borrow for college _as a means of controlling the cost of college_.😕:smack: > > Oh yeah: that sounds like a logical plan that will totally have that effect. > > :rolleyes::dubious: There’s about 5% of point there, in that to some extent colleges are raising rates because they know that students can get loans to cover the cost. Of course, that appears to be more of a problem at the for-profit institutions that DeVos and Trump love, but true at legit schools also. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-thread-for-how-the-current-admin-is-sticking-it-to-the-poor-middle-class/808763.md?page=3)