# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 145
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2881 "2017-07-13T18:33:58Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Now we’re arguing that playing contrarian is ban-worthy? > > God forbid one should have to confront the weaknesses in his or her argument. I despise this intellectual-lightweight version of discussion. It only works in an echo chamber where dissenting voices are ridiculed and tossed out. I expect better from this board and the intelligent people who frequent it. _Playing_ contrarian is a virtue? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2882 "2017-07-13T18:39:04Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > And **FXM** got banned for trolling the Pit. The hammer dropped very quickly on **handsomeharry** , note. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2883 "2017-07-13T18:46:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > _Playing_ contrarian is a virtue? It’s a necessary evil, to the intellectually mature. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2884 "2017-07-13T20:18:07Z")
A while back I posted a link to “flyer” believing in chemtrails. Turns out that he is [also into the aliens](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20342967&postcount=9). ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2885 "2017-07-13T21:02:29Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > A while back I posted a link to “flyer” believing in chemtrails. Turns out that he is [also into the aliens](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20342967&postcount=9). **Flyer** also helpfully explains why the reality of aliens (and also, one assumes, the reality of chemtrails) is being ignored by scientists. Point #1 is the well known fact that science is incapable of questioning anything that’s already believed to be true, so just fuggetaboutit. Science just doesn’t work that way. That’s why science was frozen sometime at the end of the 17th century and no further discoveries have been permitted. Point #2 is the fact that scientists lack imagination, so they are incapable of understanding that aliens might exist. Fortunately, **Flyer** possesses enough imagination for all of us and then some. A quick perusal of other revelations from his remarkable _oeuvre_ reveals the unsurprising view that [“liberals” are evil and full of hatred](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20330808&postcount=41). Also, in case you didn’t know, [native American culture is (quite properly) the dominant culture in America](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20233663&postcount=53). Native Americans being, of course, white people who speak English. Unless you believe a native American is one of those funny-looking people with feathers sticking out of his head that we mostly killed off. If that’s what you think you must be one of those hateful liberals. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2886 "2017-07-13T21:17:41Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > It’s a necessary evil, to the intellectually mature. Wel lah-dee-fuckin’-dah! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2887 "2017-07-13T21:28:07Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > **Flyer** also helpfully explains why the reality of aliens (and also, one assumes, the reality of chemtrails) is being ignored by scientists. Point #1 is the well known fact that science is incapable of questioning anything that’s already believed to be true, so just fuggetaboutit. Science just doesn’t work that way. That’s why science was frozen sometime at the end of the 17th century and no further discoveries have been permitted. Point #2 is the fact that scientists lack imagination, so they are incapable of understanding that aliens might exist. Fortunately, **Flyer** possesses enough imagination for all of us and then some. > > A quick perusal of other revelations from his remarkable _oeuvre_ reveals the unsurprising view that [“liberals” are evil and full of hatred](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20330808&postcount=41). Also, in case you didn’t know, [native American culture is (quite properly) the dominant culture in America](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20233663&postcount=53). Native Americans being, of course, white people who speak English. Unless you believe a native American is one of those funny-looking people with feathers sticking out of his head that we mostly killed off. If that’s what you think you must be one of those hateful liberals. Did you know that Charlize Theron is an African-American? Well, _did you???_ ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2888 "2017-07-13T22:43:18Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > I’m strongly libertarian which means I align with many positions on the right, however in my extended family I have many members that are far right. When I argue with them, I can easily argue the leftist position and do so when they make weak arguments. That’s not necessarily being contrary though it can appear that way. For me, it’s enjoyable and it hones arguments. I think many of them believe I’m actually politically liberal. > > That’s my take for what it’s worth. That’s not an alternate explanation at all. That is you taking a contrary position to facilitate discussion, which is what **F-P** explicitly says he’s not doing. Well, except that last part. But I’m not sure I want to talk about that and distract from the point. (In other words, I already did, but it became really long.) Point is **F-P** admitted he’s not doing what you are doing. He had one excuse for not being a troll, and he deliberately chose the opposite. As I pointed out in ATMB, a troll is someone who is disingenuous about their intent. That’s why umkay, Wally, and some guy who pretended to be trans got banned. Hence why F-P realized I was accusing him of trolling. And why I encourage everyone to just not take the bait. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2889 "2017-07-13T22:49:07Z")
If the mods won’t get rid of him, we can at least make his obvious strategy no longer effective for him. Then maybe he’ll get tired of his “game” where he “doesn’t play defense.” We have no need for dishonest debaters on this board. Life itself has no need for dishonest debaters. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2890 "2017-07-13T23:02:52Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If the mods won’t get rid of him, we can at least make his obvious strategy no longer effective for him. Then maybe he’ll get tired of his “game” where he “doesn’t play defense.” Good luck with that. It’s like generally telling the people here to not feed the trolls. It never worked, as this thread pointed out again and again. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2891 "2017-07-13T23:48:13Z")
True. There’s always someone who sucks you in, will you or won’t you. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2892 "2017-07-14T01:46:48Z")
Good thing this guy recently joined to tell us about [the Clintons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20343119&postcount=24) and their [evil plot to take over the country.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20343676&postcount=38) :eek: ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2893 "2017-07-14T01:57:53Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Good thing this guy recently joined to tell us about [the Clintons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20343119&postcount=24) and their [evil plot to take over the country.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20343676&postcount=38) :eek: That guy has an Tapatalk auto sig! Find the clone time… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2894 "2017-07-14T02:22:02Z")
Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2895 "2017-07-14T02:28:47Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Hmm… > [@](#): > > and approximately 1 employee. That amuses me. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2896 "2017-07-14T02:38:25Z")
And straight off into Projection Land, accusing Democrats of the same crap they did for 8 years. Because of course, everyone thinks and acts like they do, so when the tables are turned, we must be doing the same bullshit things. :rolleyes: Same logic we see in threads about racism where people like to throw around ‘Virtue Signalling’ and assume that _everyone_ is as racist, sexist and stupid as they are. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2897 "2017-07-14T02:43:58Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Hmm… Wow, that’s quite the business address. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2898 "2017-07-14T02:59:20Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Wow, that’s quite the business address. The overhead view shows a driveway long enough for a small truck (U-haul type) off an alley that runs behind the houses. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2899 "2017-07-14T03:01:03Z")
OTOH, it is kinda cool that their alley is named. “Venus Alley”. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/2900 "2017-07-14T03:04:26Z")
That’s just the receptionist area. The elevator heads down into the sales offices, lunchroom/spa/skee-ball area, then the executive floors. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=144) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=146)