# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3744 "2017-09-21T04:41:40Z")

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It’s hard for me to take him seriously when he’s got “global warming alarmist” in his thread title. I find that deliberately provocative.

I will concede that **iiandyiiii** may be right and **CP** may also be a racist bastard.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3745 "2017-09-21T05:00:57Z")

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You’re both right.

He’s one of the board’s long-standing scientific racists. I didn’t even know he was still posting. I must have put a mental ignore on him years ago, I thought he was long gone.

But he is trolling too. He enjoys pissing people off and he is actually a douchebag in real life. These qualities are most definitely not mutually exclusive.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3746 "2017-09-21T12:13:09Z")

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Not quite a troll, but Sarahsparkles is going to be an–um–“interesting” poster. (I noticed the post where she said that confederate monuments were probably the only thing holding slavery back from returning before she made her most recent post as of this writing, where she seems to reveal being a middle school student.)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3747 "2017-09-21T15:01:37Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> IMO … There are certainly posters in this thread who hold to that definition of “troll”. AIUI, that’s not the definition used by most mods most of the time. It’s also pretty clear the mods are not tightly standardized on this point.

Hey, it’s the Pit. People practically see abrasiveness as a requirement.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3748 "2017-09-21T15:03:52Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Seconding the motion for nomination of Chief Pedant. I don’t know about other issues, but about global warming he insists on being wrong at the top of his lungs.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Thirding. He’s Grade A Asshole Troll. Remember those threads debating black intelligence? I’d say that he’s willing to argue anything, just to argue, but that’s not it. He picks deliberately ignorant or hateful points of view and will hold them for weeks, months, or years.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> It’s hard for me to take him seriously when he’s got “global warming alarmist” in his thread title. I find that deliberately provocative.
> 
> I will concede that **iiandyiiii** may be right and **CP** may also be a racist bastard.

> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> You’re both right.
> 
> He’s one of the board’s long-standing scientific racists. I didn’t even know he was still posting. I must have put a mental ignore on him years ago, I thought he was long gone.
> 
> But he is trolling too. He enjoys pissing people off and he is actually a douchebag in real life. These qualities are most definitely not mutually exclusive.

After years of discussions I agree with researchers and science writers that concluded that cranks of one crackpot idea are themselves crank magnets. It is not just one item where their loopiness concentrates.

> **[Trump Again Proves Link Between Racism, Climate Denial](https://thinc.blog/2016/06/08/trump-again-proves-link-between-racism-climate-denial/)**
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> Sometimes the universe keeps making things crystal clear. Like a warming planet, and exactly who the people are that continue to deny it. While tying themselves into knots to support Donald Trump&#…

The question to me, and what I do investigate for, is if the crankiness leads to the current prevalent style of conservatism/republican party or if it is their ideology the reason why crank ideas are considered and adopted.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3749 "2017-09-22T00:51:21Z")

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**Contemplation** with yet another gem: “[Is it easier for women to sit with their legs closed?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=836885)”

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3750 "2017-09-22T04:04:10Z")

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Did someone in this thread do some analysis that seemed to show that **protoboard** and **Contemplation** were remarkably similar posters? Sock-like, even? I may be mis-remembering.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3751 "2017-09-24T13:27:43Z")

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**MAN TRAP** was scolded by a mod and his thread closed this morning, told not to start any more threads with unsupported assertions.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3752 "2017-09-24T14:22:41Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Did someone in this thread do some analysis that seemed to show that **protoboard** and **Contemplation** were remarkably similar posters? Sock-like, even? I may be mis-remembering.

Google sez that was here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20364642#post20364642](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20364642#post20364642) but there was just the one post asserting that and one later post in agreement.

That’s 2 months, 13 pages, and ~700 posts ago. Who knew we had so many trolls or that troll-beefing was such a popular hobby here? 🙂

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3753 "2017-09-24T15:52:22Z")

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Oddl close to when brazil84 decided to check back in. Scientific racist convention, or something more?

Risked a suspension accidentally on that guy, thinking the thread was in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3754 "2017-09-24T16:19:47Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> **MAN TRAP** was scolded by a mod and his thread closed this morning, told not to start any more threads with unsupported assertions.

Colibri put it very well;

**Moderating**

You’ve been given many factual answers to your questions, which you refuse to accept as valid. What you consider “bullshit mathematical nonsense” is actually science. Since you do not accept the factual answers to your questions, I see little point in continuing this discussion. This is closed. Enough is enough.

Do not start addition threads in this forum unless you are prepared to accept factual and scientific responses to your questions.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator  
Basically “I don’t understand the answer, so it must be bullshit.” We see a lot of those people flow through this site. Gosh, perhaps the reason these people have these questions in the first place is because they’re too fucking stupid to _understand_ the answers. No, there isn’t a simpler explanation. If you can’t understand Red Shift, or DNA, or Brownian Motion, it doesn’t mean it has to be wrong and there must be an easier solution. The Universe is complex, not simple.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3755 "2017-09-24T20:14:16Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Basically “I don’t understand the answer, so it must be bullshit.” We see a lot of those people flow through this site. Gosh, perhaps the reason these people have these questions in the first place is because they’re too fucking stupid to _understand_ the answers. No, there isn’t a simpler explanation. If you can’t understand Red Shift, or DNA, or Brownian Motion, it doesn’t mean it has to be wrong and there must be an easier solution. The Universe is complex, not simple.

I sometimes wonder about the people who build those massive crackpot delusions of knowing great truths that The Establishment is refusing to accept–do they keep at it for the rest of their lives hoping to finally be accepted for the revolutionary geniuses that they are? Do they shut up but stew in anger and bitterness about it? Do they put it behind themselves as a “what was I thinking” phase of their lives?

I’m sure it varies–I have no doubt that Archimedes Plutonium and Ed Conrad and Nancy Lieder and Dennis Markuze will go to their deathbeds convinced they were right, but somewhere out there, is “blue blood is black blood” guy and “geyser pyramid” guy and “spacetime is a fluid” guy at this very moment stewing over the fools, all of whom he will show?

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3756 "2017-09-25T03:59:00Z")

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Looks like\*\* Okrahoma\*\* is worried about [his job](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=836950).

Meanwhile, _American_ Trump supporters have become focused on the fearless leaders balls. I saw several social media posts claiming that the reason most Americans can’t stand Trump is “because he has balls”. They seem to have realized that any claims of his effectiveness, or really any positive quality, will be refuted the next morning during Trump’s dump/Tweet time.

C **lothahump** got the memo but as usual couldn’t quite get it right.

Quote:  
“Colin K. should have been fired the first time he did it. Trump’s statement was exactly correct. The NFL is taking it in the shorts because the league has no balls.”

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3757 "2017-09-25T16:19:13Z")

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And this **billfish678** guy is one of the biggest tools/morons in the RW drooling gallery here, which for here is saying something. [Doesn’t even grasp how a comments section like Yahoo’s works.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20497328&postcount=122)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3758 "2017-09-25T17:43:31Z")

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He’s certainly got the misogynist thing going on. Although he claims it’s all due to an insane ex- and he doesn’t blame the whole female race\*. Not that I quite believe him about the second part of that.

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- Aretha Franklin’s term, not mine. But I do like it occasionally.

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3759 "2017-09-25T20:56:44Z")

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Yesterday I noticed a new poster, **Pleet Bai,** who seemed sane, so I welcomed him to the SDMB.  
Too soon, it turns out. His third post is a screed against breast cancer charities.

Link: [Real Breast Cancer Awareness](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20496043&postcount=16)

It will be interesting to see if he has other complaints or is just a breast guy.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3760 "2017-09-25T21:01:03Z")

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Seems more like an anti-medicine woo type. I’m sure they have many interests besides breasts. And I’m sure we’ll hear all about them.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3761 "2017-09-26T00:06:48Z")

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Allow me to share **billfish** ’s thread “[Ask the Asshole](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=837287)”. I love the Dope.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3762 "2017-09-26T04:08:43Z")

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> [@ioioio](#):
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> Yesterday I noticed a new poster, **Pleet Bai,** who seemed sane, so I welcomed him to the SDMB.  
> Too soon, it turns out. His third post is a screed against breast cancer charities.
> 
> Link: [Real Breast Cancer Awareness](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20496043&postcount=16)
> 
> It will be interesting to see if he has other complaints or is just a breast guy.

I don’t disagree with everything he says in there, I have a gut-level certainty that a lot of those charities, at the “corporate” level if you will, are far more interested in maintaining their own existences than they are in curing cancer.

But that’s just the cynic in me.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/3763 "2017-09-26T12:56:47Z")

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Do my eyes deceive me, or, [is **Scylla** trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=837310)? [Here, specifically](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20499945&postcount=11).

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