# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4164 "2017-11-01T19:48:12Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> And he has been banned.
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20575712&postcount=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20575712&postcount=2)

He was recently advocating that the board should have a “Like” button. I could use one now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4165 "2017-11-01T19:54:38Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> When have you dispensed of a previously unwarned poster for trolling?

Trolling, like spamming and socking, is an instaban offense and doesn’t require a prior warning. When a new poster comes out of the box trolling, they’re dispensed with toot sweet.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4166 "2017-11-01T20:38:37Z")

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While leaving on a sour note.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4167 "2017-11-01T21:17:44Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Trolling, like spamming and socking, is an instaban offense and doesn’t require a prior warning. When a new poster comes out of the box trolling, they’re dispensed with toot sweet.

Trolling can be an instaban offense, but it doesn’t always work that way. The mods here often give a long leash to new posters who are obvious trolls, and the ban doesn’t come for some time-- week or even months. I’m not arguing whether that is good or bad, but new trolls are not always dispensed with immediately.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4168 "2017-11-01T21:20:02Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Trolling can be an instaban offense, but it doesn’t always work that way. The mods here often give a long leash to new posters who are obvious trolls, and the ban doesn’t come for some time-- week or even months. I’m not arguing whether that is good or bad, but new trolls are not always dispensed with immediately.

I’d argue that suspect trolls are given an opportunity to play out enough rope to hang them. Obvious trolls are instabanned, and none too soon. Long-play trolls may linger for years, skating the borderline, until they cross, or someone notices their track record. And then they’re banned.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4169 "2017-11-01T21:21:16Z")

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Here’s an example od a successful troll. Successful means he pulled it off, not that it was appropriate. This board is a good source of food for many of them, lots of food.

> **["cheating" at sex...paranoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=427886)**
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> Ok, this is a very personal question. And if it is innaprpriate im sorry, please remove it. the other day my girlfriend and I were “messing” around and we were trying to get as close to sex as possible(i know, stupid) soo…i stuck myself in her and...

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4170 "2017-11-01T21:31:22Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Here’s an example od a successful troll. Successful means he pulled it off, not that it was appropriate. This board is a good source of food for many of them, lots of food.
> 
> ["cheating" at sex...paranoid - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=427886)

Last activity: 03-25-2008 01:44 PM

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4171 "2017-11-01T21:36:05Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> I’d argue that suspect trolls are given an opportunity to play out enough rope to hang them. Obvious trolls are instabanned, and none too soon. Long-play trolls may linger for years, skating the borderline, until they cross, or someone notices their track record. And then they’re banned.

I guess the difference between suspect and obvious trolls depends on how good your trolldar is. 😉

Of course a person isn’t officially a troll if he’s still posting here, since troll = ban. But that’s circular reasoning, or the New True Troll fallacy. It’s often a matter of opinion when someone is officially declared a troll. And since the mods are not machines, that’s probably the way it has to be.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4172 "2017-11-01T22:35:16Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Here’s an example od a successful troll. Successful means he pulled it off, not that it was appropriate. This board is a good source of food for many of them, lots of food.
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> ["cheating" at sex...paranoid - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=427886)

Extremely weak sauce, and not really a good comparison at all. He had joined over a year earlier and had made close to a hundred unexceptional posts before that (and a lot afterward as well). That was also when the board was pay-to-post, and he had purchased a membership. He certainly didn’t join up just to troll.

For someone who is accusing others of “troll hysteria,” the fact that you apparently remembered one not-so-remarkable post from over a decade ago suggests a rather strange obsession on your part. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4173 "2017-11-01T22:38:16Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> I’d argue that suspect trolls are given an opportunity to play out enough rope to hang them. Obvious trolls are instabanned, and none too soon. Long-play trolls may linger for years, skating the borderline, until they cross, or someone notices their track record. And then they’re banned.

That’s pretty much the case. We give new posters the benefit of the doubt. Some posters feel we give them too much leeway. But with many there’s no doubt at all.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4174 "2017-11-01T23:03:54Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Extremely weak sauce, and not really a good comparison at all. He had joined over a year earlier and had made close to a hundred unexceptional posts before that (and a lot afterward as well). That was also when the board was pay-to-post, and he had purchased a membership. He certainly didn’t join up just to troll.
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> For someone who is accusing others of “troll hysteria,” the fact that you apparently remembered one not-so-remarkable post from over a decade ago suggests a rather strange obsession on your part. :dubious:

He started 28 threads and how many did Sam Clem lock? Out of 150 posts?  
Now reread the thread, look at the username. He found that before he misfired?  
Proving my point, trolling and getting caught are two different things. Most miss it and he got away with it.

Sam Clem was seeing it.

> **[this entire board is ridiculous](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431840)**
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> First of all, Ive never seen another forum online that you have to pay for…but i figured the information I could get was worth the money. So I embarked on the biggest waste of $15 ever. In any other forum I can ask whatever I want. Here, admins...

Garfield saw it.  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8856593&postcount=3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8856593&postcount=3)

You missed it? Surely you didn’t miss that?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4175 "2017-11-01T23:20:58Z")

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Is it 2007 already?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4176 "2017-11-01T23:43:51Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Is it 2007 already?

Your obviously not in the hot tub time machine!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4177 "2017-11-02T13:18:01Z")

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[This guy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840554) sure does a lot of concern trolling these days.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4178 "2017-11-02T13:44:47Z")

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Has anyone ever seen [Urbandredneck](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840618) and [HurricaneDitka](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840554) in the same room at the same time?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4179 "2017-11-02T14:10:41Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Has anyone ever seen [Urbandredneck](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840618) and [HurricaneDitka](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840554) in the same room at the same time?

[Also Fotheringay-Phipps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840553)?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4180 "2017-11-02T14:36:41Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Also Fotheringay-Phipps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840553)?

Only if they have an identical cousin, from the UK.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4181 "2017-11-02T21:11:59Z")

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**Phipps** is definitely working overtime in the Mueller thread.

> [@Upton Sinclair](#):
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> It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4182 "2017-11-02T21:46:11Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> **Phipps** is definitely working overtime in the Mueller thread.

It feels (to me) like **F-P** has really stepped up his Trump-defense game since our dear **Okra** departed.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/4183 "2017-11-02T21:48:45Z")

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Nature abhors a vacuum, and few are as empty as he.

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