# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 258
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5144 "2017-12-04T19:57:07Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Our little friend is gone. Off to the cornfield, to share his wisdom with the countless others who have gone before. > > I was a TA in graduate school. I have no idea how some of those kids even got into college. I thought he was working at MacDonald’s, like all the other 20-somethings. Going home to their one-bedroom apartments, if they even have apartments. Those kids must be lucky. When I finally finished school and started working, I couldn’t have afforded a one-bedroom apartment for myself. Had to be a two-bedroom, with a roommate, to share expenses. Granted, that was only the first couple years, but damn was it finally nice to lose the roommate! ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5145 "2017-12-04T20:37:07Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Thank you for making my point. This type of hyperbolic nonsense degrades our ability to talk. As a liberal I find it truly disturbing you would resort to the false tactics Trump uses to paint anyone who disagrees with you as evil incarnate. Bullshit. There wasn’t a single untrue remark in my entire post to you. Being scolded by someone claiming to be a fellow liberal (and for the record, how you self-identify is irrelevant to me) because I am not polite to the Trump sympathizers doesn’t scare me. Conservatives who support and defend our president are equally responsible for the damage he’s causing. People like you, trying to cozy up to them and reassuring them that they’re good people just make it easier for them to keep up their dumber than dogshit delusions. My heart pumps warm piss for you all. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5146 "2017-12-04T20:52:35Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Hey, [I made a thread about this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834183). I replied in your thread. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5147 "2017-12-04T22:42:09Z")
I hereby withdraw any reservations I may have stated about whether F-P is a troll. I can’t see that [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=843802) is anything but trolling. OP is that unwanted sexual advances won’t go away because it “works”. A sample: > [@](#): > > Bottom line in all this is that persistence in the face of rejection will sometimes work, and people living in society who observe what works and what doesn’t will notice this. And this means that persisting in the face of rejection will be something that carries a risk, but also offers a potential reward as well. And this will make it much harder to suppress. Throughout the thread **F-P** , conflates sexual harassment with flirtation. I’d Pit him, but I don’t want to give him the satisfaction. He’s got **SA** in there carrying his torch now. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5148 "2017-12-04T23:17:42Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > OP is that unwanted sexual advances won’t go away because it “works”. Well, we’ve been given to understand that conservatives are eminently practical. There be a prime example. When you’re totally results-oriented, you can’t argue with “it works”. :rolleyes: Wait, maybe I should modify that slightly. When you’re a primordial troglodyte driven only by a totally self-serving reptilian brain, you can’t argue with “it works”. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5149 "2017-12-04T23:28:44Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I hereby withdraw any reservations I may have stated about whether F-P is a troll. I can’t see that [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=843802) is anything but trolling. OP is that unwanted sexual advances won’t go away because it “works”. > > A sample: > > Throughout the thread **F-P** , conflates sexual harassment with flirtation. I’d Pit him, but I don’t want to give him the satisfaction. He’s got **SA** in there carrying his torch now. Actually in rationalist circles you hear about this a fair bit, and it’s not quite as awful as all that. To me, the closer pattern match is not “see, sexual harassment works sometimes, so it’s okay sometimes”, but rather, “Our current social mores on flirtation and sexuality are kinda fucked, and this leads to a social equilibrium wherein sometimes overtly abusive behavior is successful and favored.” Then again, I’m a total weirdo, so maybe that’s just me. I also didn’t read much past the first few posts, so maybe it got worse, I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5150 "2017-12-04T23:46:40Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > He’s got **SA** in there carrying his torch now. Is the torch fashioned out of a pa— oh, never mind. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5151 "2017-12-04T23:54:42Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > … > > Throughout the thread **F-P** , conflates sexual harassment with flirtation. I’d Pit him, but I don’t want to give him the satisfaction. He’s got **SA** in there carrying his torch now. I can sympathize. There was a girl at work who was flirty with me, and I responded flirtily. It kept on like that for a while until I realized I had a choice to make: Should I just ask her out and give her a chance to say Yes or No, or should I stalk her until she was alone in the break room and then just start masturbating? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5152 "2017-12-04T23:56:00Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I can sympathize. There was a girl at work who was flirty with me, and I responded flirtily. It kept on like that for a while until I realized I had a choice to make: Should I just ask her out and give her a chance to say Yes or No, or should I stalk her until she was alone in the break room and then just start masturbating? So what choice did you go with? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5153 "2017-12-04T23:58:28Z")
😃 I went with the first one, she said she’d let me know, and I never got a call after that! ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5154 "2017-12-05T00:14:34Z")
Great, now I’m picturing **bobot** in the break room with a bunch of paper towels wiping the floor. Ted: Hey **bobot** , what you up to? **bobot** : Eh, you know, Tuesday, am I right?! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5155 "2017-12-05T00:40:45Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > i went with the first one, she said she’d let me know, and I never got a call after that! Trial and error, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5156 "2017-12-05T00:49:26Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Thank you for making my point. This type of hyperbolic nonsense degrades our ability to talk. As a liberal I find it truly disturbing you would resort to the false tactics Trump uses to paint anyone who disagrees with you as evil incarnate. Yes, using Trumpian tactics does make it hard. So why are you using them? The post you are responding to does not in any way resemble your summary of it. It at no point says that everyone who disagrees with the poster is a Nazi. It says those who stand back and claim both sides are just as bad are just as bad as Nazis. It at no point says that all conservatives are Nazis, let alone all who disagree with him. The tactic you are using here is a certain kind of strawman, where you pretend the liberals are attacking anyone they disagree with. You refuse to read the actual content and debate it on its merits. You instead make up something obviously bad and attack it. That doesn’t further any discussion. It is just the same vilification you are crying out against. I for one agree with him. And, guess what? I have conservative friends. But they are just as appalled as I am about the people equivocating when it comes to Nazis. None of them would ever say that Nazis and anti-Nazis are just as bad. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5157 "2017-12-05T00:50:04Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Is the torch fashioned out of a pa— > > oh, never mind. I’d like a T please. Yes, there are 2 Ts. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5158 "2017-12-05T00:51:53Z")
I would like to say thank you for posts 5140 to 5144. They brightened a shitty day. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5159 "2017-12-05T01:05:07Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Actually in rationalist circles you hear about this a fair bit, and it’s not quite as awful as all that. To me, the closer pattern match is not “see, sexual harassment works sometimes, so it’s okay sometimes”, but rather, “Our current social mores on flirtation and sexuality are kinda fucked, and this leads to a social equilibrium wherein sometimes overtly abusive behavior is successful and favored.” Then again, I’m a total weirdo, so maybe that’s just me. I also didn’t read much past the first few posts, so maybe it got worse, I dunno. Yes, if I go back and parse it, that argument is there, although **F-P** is very stubborn about refusing to separate harassment and flirtation. I’m not going to get into **SA** ’s garbage. That’s a pit thread right there. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5160 "2017-12-05T01:08:33Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Is the torch fashioned out of a pa— > > oh, never mind. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > I’d like a T please. > Yes, there are 2 Ts. Can I buy a vowel, Pat? Is there an E? Very good. There are three Es. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5161 "2017-12-05T01:16:27Z")
That **S** hitty **A** sswipe is never going to hear the end of that. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5162 "2017-12-05T01:26:11Z")
Good. I will tell you that the torch is NOT made out of plack. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5163 "2017-12-05T03:08:08Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Throughout the thread **F-P** , conflates sexual harassment with flirtation. I’d Pit him, but I don’t want to give him the satisfaction. He’s got **SA** in there carrying his torch now. Wait. **Starving Artist** is carrying a torch for **Fotheringay-Phipps**? It never even occurred to me to ship them. But I guess that now that **Starkers** ’s heart is on the line, I kinda HAVE to, just because of the situation being so unexpected and squee-worthy. Oh, man, I’m gonna ship them SO hard. I wonder how long this has been going on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=257) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=259)