# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5324 "2017-12-08T18:20:10Z")

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I think it’s only fair if someone gets slammed in the Pit, they are entitled to reply. It’s not like we really have a… I dunno, structure, here.

The broad generalizations about the board as a whole are irritating. Five or six people are pissed off at you, that’s no grand conspiracy, it’s five or six people pissed off at you. I have no knowledge of the drama in question and am choosing not to engage based on the fact that the subject matter will likely shoot my blood pressure through the roof… but come \*on. \*

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5325 "2017-12-08T18:24:28Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Maybe instead of the cornfield, we should be sending some of these guys to the salt mines. Kosher salt mines, of course. Some of them might be Jewish!!

My grandpa utterly convinced me he worked in the salt mines. Like every day he came home from work, he would recount his tales of the salt mines.

He was an engineer for a major power company.

I later learned that Michigan actually does have a humongous salt mine, which adds a veneer of credibility to his claim.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5326 "2017-12-08T18:24:58Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I think it’s only fair if someone gets slammed in the Pit, they are entitled to reply.

I agree. Let them reply all they want.

I think the issues is: Don’t turn this thread into an ongoing pissing match between posters. If such a match is needed, open a thread specifically for that.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5327 "2017-12-08T18:25:49Z")

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I’d like to advance the daring theory that perhaps [the new troll referenced here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20651461&postcount=1) who seeks a dominate [sic] Master and S&M partner is related to our new trocks **johnod** and **PCarolinus** , if not one and the same. Observe that none of them can write or spell, or form paragraphs. Now I grant you that illiteracy is an attribute common to low intelligence of around the level of imbecile, which all three share, but there’s more. Note that **PCarolinus** in particular has a high tolerance for abuse, if not an outright attraction to it. **PCarolinus** considers sexual assault to be a “hilariously trifling complaint”, and moreover, keeps coming back here after being subjected to a torrent of insults that make it clear that, despite its considerable talents, we would all prefer that said trock bugger off someplace else. Yet it’s still here, and seems to enjoy the abuse. I’m suspicious.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5328 "2017-12-08T18:29:27Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I agree. Let them reply all they want.
> 
> I think the issues is: Don’t turn this thread into an ongoing pissing match between posters. If such a match is needed, open a thread specifically for that.

That’s fair. I guess it would be the equivalent of a thread hijack.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5329 "2017-12-08T18:31:03Z")

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Ah, a _ **trifecta of trocks** _! A first for the dope.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5330 "2017-12-08T19:07:58Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> That’s fair. I guess it would be the equivalent of a thread hijack.

Yep. That’s why I’ve been starting Pit threads for people lately - to get them out of this one. I’d love to have an Omnibus Argument thread, but I don’t know if we could get appropriate participation.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5331 "2017-12-08T19:17:01Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Ah, a _ **trifecta of trocks** _! A first for the dope.

We should commemorate this with a plack.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5332 "2017-12-08T19:18:28Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> My grandpa utterly convinced me he worked in the salt mines. Like every day he came home from work, he would recount his tales of the salt mines.

Didn’t realize salt mines [could be so psychedelic](http://www.earthporm.com/psychedelic-salt-mine-youll-ever-see/).

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5333 "2017-12-08T19:20:29Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’d like to advance the daring theory that perhaps [the new troll referenced here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20651461&postcount=1) who seeks a dominate [sic] Master and S&M partner is related to our new trocks **johnod** and **PCarolinus** , if not one and the same. Observe that none of them can write or spell, or form paragraphs. Now I grant you that illiteracy is an attribute common to low intelligence of around the level of imbecile, which all three share, but there’s more. Note that **PCarolinus** in particular has a high tolerance for abuse, if not an outright attraction to it. **PCarolinus** considers sexual assault to be a “hilariously trifling complaint”, and moreover, keeps coming back here after being subjected to a torrent of insults that make it clear that, despite its considerable talents, we would all prefer that said trock bugger off someplace else. Yet it’s still here, and seems to enjoy the abuse. I’m suspicious.

Sent to dwell in the field of maize.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5334 "2017-12-08T19:24:53Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Yep. That’s why I’ve been starting Pit threads for people lately - to get them out of this one. I’d love to have an Omnibus Argument thread, but I don’t know if we could get appropriate participation.

What’s that supposed to mean? Are you saying that straight dopers aren’t argumentative enough for you?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5335 "2017-12-08T19:31:56Z")

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It’s fair enough to call three trocks a trifecta, but I believe the formal collective term is a _plack_ of trolls, socks, or trocks.

Although sticklers for linguistic formality will sometimes refer to a _synchophant_ of trocks.

I should mention that this is not to be confused with the medieval meaning of “synchophant”, as used by our learned friend **PCarolinus**. That term is from the root “syncho”, denoting a kind of line dance, and the Greek “phaino” meaning “to show”. We owe this terminology once again to medieval Scotland. It refers to a form of popular entertainment at the time whereby drunken Scotsmen would spontaneously form a conga line in the town square and systematically doff their kilts to the accompaniment of rollicking bagpipes. As the contemporary essayist William Dunbar wrote in _The Complaynt of Scotlande, or, the Daunce of the Synchophantes_, these were quite scandalous affairs:  
Behold the lycht lopene of the ald synchophantes, galamanding, stendling backuart & forduart whill nacht waerring no kiltes, and mony of the ladyes and gentylwoemen did swoone in fryte.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5336 "2017-12-08T19:45:40Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It refers to a form of popular entertainment at the time whereby drunken Scotsmen would spontaneously form a conga line in the town square and systematically doff their kilts to the accompaniment of rollicking bagpipes.

Paging **Ivylass** …

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**Author:** ![PCarolinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@PCarolinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PCarolinus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5337 "2017-12-08T19:49:13Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’d like to advance the daring theory that perhaps [the new troll referenced here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20651461&postcount=1) who seeks a dominate [sic] Master and S&M partner is related to our new trocks **johnod** and **PCarolinus** , if not one and the same. Observe that none of them can write or spell, or form paragraphs. Now I grant you that illiteracy is an attribute common to low intelligence of around the level of imbecile, which all three share, but there’s more. Note that **PCarolinus** in particular has a high tolerance for abuse, if not an outright attraction to it. **PCarolinus** considers sexual assault to be a “hilariously trifling complaint”, and moreover, keeps coming back here after being subjected to a torrent of insults that make it clear that, despite its considerable talents, we would all prefer that said trock bugger off someplace else. Yet it’s still here, and seems to enjoy the abuse. I’m suspicious.

That twit said she went to HR over comments about her lunch. She didn’t complain of any brand of assault.

Quote me. Where did I claim sexual assualt was a triflng complaint?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5338 "2017-12-08T19:51:23Z")

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This is all making sense now.  
Note to self: When in Europe, drink with the Irish, never the Scots. The Scots get drunk and do stupid shit. the Irish get drunk and get funnier than shit on a the restroom door handle.

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**Author:** ![PCarolinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@PCarolinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PCarolinus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5339 "2017-12-08T19:52:55Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It’s fair enough to call three trocks a trifecta, but I believe the formal collective term is a _plack_ of trolls, socks, or trocks.
> 
> Although sticklers for linguistic formality will sometimes refer to a _synchophant_ of trocks.
> 
> I should mention that this is not to be confused with the medieval meaning of “synchophant”, as used by our learned friend **PCarolinus**. That term is from the root “syncho”, denoting a kind of line dance, and the Greek “phaino” meaning “to show”. We owe this terminology once again to medieval Scotland. It refers to a form of popular entertainment at the time whereby drunken Scotsmen would spontaneously form a conga line in the town square and systematically doff their kilts to the accompaniment of rollicking bagpipes. As the contemporary essayist William Dunbar wrote in _The Complaynt of Scotlande, or, the Daunce of the Synchophantes_, these were quite scandalous affairs:  
> Behold the lycht lopene of the ald synchophantes, galamanding, stendling backuart & forduart whill nacht waerring no kiltes, and mony of the ladyes and gentylwoemen did swoone in fryte.

Thanks for the correction. I should have been more clear: several of you are so bent o kissing Nawth Chuka’s tender ass that you are willing to support the most inane complaint ever recorded by HR.  
So… ass kissers? That a better fit? She a mod, or something? What in the world would cause a small army of decent spellers and general well-spoken people to defend such frivolous whining?  
Like, have you read a newspaper? A couple comments about your lunch shouldn’t send you running for the nearest lawyer. Real world problems, people. All over the place.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5340 "2017-12-08T19:56:26Z")

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> [@PCarolinus](#):
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> That twit said she went to HR over comments about her lunch. She didn’t complain of any brand of assault.
> 
> Quote me. Where did I claim sexual assualt was a triflng complaint?

Wow, your other account got cornfielded so you’re back?

Trock

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5341 "2017-12-08T20:35:02Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> This is all making sense now.  
> Note to self: When in Europe, drink with the Irish, never the Scots. The Scots get drunk and do stupid shit. the Irish get drunk and get funnier than shit on a the restroom door handle.

Good man yourself! Someone finally copped the fuck on… 😉

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5342 "2017-12-08T23:11:07Z")

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> [@PCarolinus](#):
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> That twit said she went to HR over comments about her lunch. She didn’t complain of any brand of assault.

(N.B. Please don’t make me read the whole thread.)

If the small snippets I’ve been exposed to have left me with anything like an accurate picture of her issue, she had a co-worker commenting on her lunch. She did not feel that making comments about someone else’s lunch or other eating habits was polite, appropriate, or something she should have to put up with, so she asked politely that the co-worker refrain from making comments to her. Her polite requests were ignored, and the comments to her continued, which, BY DEFINITION, raises the co-worker’s behavior to the level of harassment. The fact that the co-worker was apparently her direct supervisor makes the harassment more egregious, and a report to HR entirely justified.

You don’t get to go unchallenged if you decide to characterize her reaction as that of a twit. By doing so, you are effectively arrogating to yourself the right to choose where she is allowed to set her personal boundaries and what she is allowed to do to obtain respect for them.

If others have mistakenly conflated your arrogance wrt **Nawth Chucka** ’s personal boundaries with a decree that any brand of assault is of trivial importance, that’s on them. What’s on you is that you didn’t acquit yourself well in the discussion.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5343 "2017-12-08T23:20:56Z")

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**kaylasdad99** one more bit of info. The co-worker wasn’t commenting on the food per se, she was commenting on **Nawth Chucka** ’s body. “You look like that and you’re eating that?” “You look so X” and so on. She got told to stop, she wouldn’t stop, it escalated from there. Based on my training, I would characterize it as a hostile work environment.

**PC Trock** was being a jerk and ridiculously over-simplifying the matter.

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