# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 293
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5844 "2018-01-04T17:27:55Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > B-Rad [starts a thread about ga-hosts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846158), gets snippy when people don’t take it seriously. Starts a thread IN GQ, no less. With the explicit presumption that there must certainly be an objective, consistent, and evidence-based answer to a factual question about an entirely fictional, superstitious, and woo-based subject. Much like other woo-based questions that start out in GQ, moved to IMHO where it can get properly [del]rogered[/del] answered. But perhaps unlike those other woo-based questions, I don’t know if we can assume naïve goodwill. Anti-vaxers, homeopaths, and flat-earthers apparently believe (sincerely) their nutbaggery, but something about B-Rad’s sincerity… I am getting faint indications at the extreme range of my trolldar in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5845 "2018-01-04T17:51:00Z")
I’m calling it: **Fotheringay-Phipps** is the **SamuelA** of Trump/Russia discussions. Nowhere near as rude, obviously, but the insistence on dismissing the overwhelming evidence in his efforts to carry Trump’s water is equally as frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5846 "2018-01-04T19:38:08Z")
So, we have a guy in Cafe Society who bumped a zombie about _The Courtship of Eddie’s Father_ to insist that a TV station in Philly removed the original theme song and substituted _You’re My Best Friend_ by Queen. One station. On its own. Despite being presented with evidence why this couldn’t be the case, he continues to insist that his memory is “100% accurate.” > [@Queen's "You're My Best Friend" as TV theme song?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queens-youre-my-best-friend-as-tv-theme-song/18585/28): > > I know for a fact that Queen’s “Your my best friend” was used > as the theme for Eddie’s father. > > They replaced the Nilson song with Queen’s song for a while (this was years back > in the Philadelphia area) > > And I remember thinking “Wow they switched songs and are now using Queens song”. > I also remember thinking “Wow, Queen must be in need of money to let them use the song” > > My own opinion is that they used the song illegally thinking “people wouldn’t catch on”. > Or it was an honest mistake by some audio/visual tech at the studio. > > But yes in Philadelphia Queen’s song WAS used for a while for Eddies Father. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20695511&postcount=28](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20695511&postcount=28) I’m convinced that he’s trolling us by now. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5847 "2018-01-04T19:43:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m calling it: > > **Fotheringay-Phipps** is the **SamuelA** of Trump/Russia discussions. Nowhere near as rude, obviously, but the insistence on dismissing the overwhelming evidence in his efforts to carry Trump’s water is equally as frustrating. He’s **SamuelA** for every discussion ever. He just wants to “win”. He pivots, words change meaning, citations aren’t read, victory is self-declared, and on and on. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5848 "2018-01-04T19:44:53Z")
I like the classic “I’m not reading your cite, but will mock you for not reading mine” attitude. So refreshing! ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5849 "2018-01-04T20:01:26Z")
I think people are being too hard on the ghost post. _He thrusts his fists against the posts And still insists he sees the ghosts_ It’s certainly possible to factually answer the question, what is the general consensus on ghost life span among those who claim expertise? You can answer that factually without pretending ghosts are real. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5850 "2018-01-04T20:07:53Z")
I thought most people did fine. Most said, I don’t believe in ghosts, but here’s what I’ve always heard on the subject. (No “IT”. _shivers_) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5851 "2018-01-04T20:20:57Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > It’s certainly possible to factually answer the question, what is the general consensus on ghost life span among those who claim expertise? Except that the concept of “ghost” has been independently invented in multiple cultures around the world, with multiple traits for the ghosts. A Chinese ghost is going to be different from a Congolese ghost is going to be different from a Cherokee ghost is going to be different from a Aztec ghost, is going to be different from…so to claim that there is any consensus among “experts in ghosts” would require either artificially (and tautologically) restricting the definition of ghosts to “things that fit the definition that group _x_ has for them” or to assume that they are real and that the question has an objective answer. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5852 "2018-01-04T21:30:05Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > so to claim that there is any consensus among “experts in ghosts” would require either artificially (and tautologically) restricting the definition of ghosts to “things that fit the definition that group _x_ has for them” or to assume that they are real and that the question has an objective answer. But the OP asked IF there was a consensus, so the question can be answered factually, as I did, with: “No.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5853 "2018-01-04T21:34:35Z")
Whatever; he certainly chose the wrong MB for having a discussion that would take the question seriously. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5854 "2018-01-04T21:37:33Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Whatever; he certainly chose the wrong MB for having a discussion that would take the question seriously. I dunno. It seems to be quite a few long time residents participating with their own beliefs in ghosts. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5855 "2018-01-04T22:01:04Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > It’s certainly possible to factually answer the question, what is the general consensus on ghost life span among those who claim expertise? There’s no consensus among self-proclaimed “experts” even as to what a ghost is, let alone how long it survives. Are they spirits of the dead, psychic impressions, or demons disguised as people? And “experts” tend to accept anything that suggests supernatural activity as evidence of ghosts, meaning that vast variety of putative phenomena are lumped under this category. There is no independent verification of what constitutes a ghost. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5856 "2018-01-04T23:06:58Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > There’s no consensus among self-proclaimed “experts” even as to what a ghost is, let alone how long it survives. Are they spirits of the dead, psychic impressions, or demons disguised as people? And “experts” tend to accept anything that suggests supernatural activity as evidence of ghosts, meaning that vast variety of putative phenomena are lumped under this category. There is no independent verification of what constitutes a ghost. That would be a good, factual answer. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5857 "2018-01-04T23:10:11Z")
> [@naita](#): > > I dunno. It seems to be quite a few long time residents participating with their own beliefs in ghosts. I have a friend who believes in ghosts. He doesn’t like when we joke about them. It’s difficult for me to understand. I have no doubt there’s some fucked up inexplicable shit that happens to these people, but there are so many alternative explanations to many of these phenomena, “ghost” doesn’t strike me as a solid default. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5858 "2018-01-05T04:27:53Z")
> [@naita](#): > > But the OP asked IF there was a consensus, so the question can be answered factually, as I did, with: “No.” Good for you, **naita**! SO many woo-based questions need a terse, one-word answer. I often type “No”, then delete it for fear it’ll look like threadshitting. When I really just want the OP to face facts. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5859 "2018-01-05T05:32:53Z")
[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704102&postcount=58](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704102&postcount=58) you’ll like this one. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5860 "2018-01-05T06:32:03Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704102&postcount=58](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704102&postcount=58) > > you’ll like this one. Is this our “new friend” Hugh? He struck me as a refugee from teenage “let’s shock the grownups” land. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5861 "2018-01-05T07:01:47Z")
Man, **CastletonSnob** is an odd duck. He asks if southpaws are more prone to schizophrenia and dying younger. The thread that follows is much better than one would expect from such a crass kick-off. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5862 "2018-01-05T14:18:07Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Man, **CastletonSnob** is an odd duck. He asks if southpaws are more prone to schizophrenia and dying younger. The thread that follows is much better than one would expect from such a crass kick-off. It’s a legitimate question with some basis in truth. It appears right-handed women live five years longer than left-handed women, on average, and the gap is ten years among men. The most apparent reason for this is that left-handed people are more accident prone, living in a right-handed world - but some evidence points to left-handed brain structure increasing susceptibility to neurological disease. I’m left-handed, I’ve had to face these facts about myself. Honestly? With all the benefits I believe my left-handedness conveys, it’s probably worth a shortened life-span (to me.) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5863 "2018-01-05T14:28:00Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704102&postcount=58](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704102&postcount=58) > > you’ll like this one. If this was the Shriners one, he’s been cornfielded. > [@I just told some Shriners to go to hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-told-some-shriners-to-go-to-hell/209394/66): > > For those wondering, this zombie was raised by a troll whose post (and comments on it) have been removed. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704490&postcount=61](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20704490&postcount=61) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=292) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=294)