# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 297
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5924 "2018-01-08T02:21:50Z")
If [first you don’t succeed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=844098), [try, try again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846415) [and again somewhere else.](https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/305832-ww-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-tails-lose.html) **JBGUSA** spams again. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5925 "2018-01-08T02:30:42Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Shaggy is bumping his thread again. Pathetic attention seeking creature needs ignored. So far, no one is biting. Keeping fingers crossed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5926 "2018-01-08T02:35:02Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If [first you don’t succeed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=844098), > > [try, try again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846415) > > [and again somewhere else.](https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/305832-ww-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-tails-lose.html) > > **JBGUSA** spams again. Oh, and also [here](https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/the-world/ww-i-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-be-tails-i-lose/) . [and here.](http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/2869616-ww-i-korea-ww-ii-israel.html) ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5927 "2018-01-08T02:37:13Z")
Wow, he’s the Copy and Paste mafia. He’s really interested in the answer I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5928 "2018-01-08T03:05:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If [first you don’t succeed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=844098), > > [try, try again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846415) > > [and again somewhere else.](https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/305832-ww-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-tails-lose.html) > > **JBGUSA** spams again. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, and also [here](https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/the-world/ww-i-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-be-tails-i-lose/) > . > [and here.](http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/2869616-ww-i-korea-ww-ii-israel.html) [“Again” is right.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=835176) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5929 "2018-01-08T05:36:41Z")
First post was in November 2017; how much longer will this trock be jamming up the Dope? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5930 "2018-01-08T06:11:50Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > So far, no one is biting. Keeping fingers crossed. No, apparently Guin didn’t get the word. She hasn’t figured out that she’s the only one posting with Shaggydip. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5931 "2018-01-08T06:13:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > First post was in November 2017; how much longer will this trock be jamming up the Dope? Until The Temple is rebuilt? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5932 "2018-01-08T07:10:45Z")
Pretty sure hajaar is someone who got access to an old account from the hack to promote their website. Too suspicious they would post in the thread after lurking so long, then reply twice, and also not know the rules of the board about spamming. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20708535&postcount=117](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20708535&postcount=117) ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5933 "2018-01-08T09:07:54Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, and also [here](https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/the-world/ww-i-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-be-tails-i-lose/) > . > [and here.](http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/2869616-ww-i-korea-ww-ii-israel.html) It is not new… and he puts on fake political colors as was documented in the past. Why they allow such clear bad faith ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5934 "2018-01-08T11:19:38Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > He may not, strictly speaking, be a troll, but Quartz definitely qualifies as a tool: > > I don’t know why these assholes just have to go way out of their way to bear false witness and completely evade the main point in question (that the crucial ballot should have been tossed due to illegibility, much less that she was being any sort of “sore loser” in the video), but they do it again, and again, and again. > > Maybe we need a separate omnibus thread for tools and jerks… Not a troll, but certainly someone “strongly wedded to his worldview”. And, ironically, someone who tends to take losing an argument very poorly himself. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5935 "2018-01-08T13:27:45Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > This was just too much for him. [He’s leaving us for a little while](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=841464). Of course, being the snowflake that he is (that’s the right word, isn’t it?), he had to announce it in a venue where actual responses are not going to be allowed. He’s back from his flounce and still [very concerned](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20709156) about the behavior of random people he assesses to be liberal. I’m sure he’ll now be very concerned about the civility of those who point out when he drops these turds. Edit: I see his return is already being discussed. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5936 "2018-01-08T13:47:46Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > He may not, strictly speaking, be a troll, but Quartz definitely qualifies as a tool: I think a lot of his posts are at least related to the concept of concern trolling. He acts as if he’s above it all but goes around clicking his tongue whenever anyone on one particular side says just about anything. I mean, he started at least _four_ [ATMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831670) [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819322) [asking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=781432) [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=821619) the mods stop people from saying things about Trump that he found to be very wrong and uncivil, but don’t you dare suggest that it has anything to do with his feelings about Donald Trump. He even referenced this very sincere concern of his in his flounce thread. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5937 "2018-01-08T14:41:32Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > \*\*SamuelA \*\*logic detected. I didn’t mean to imply the thread title made your post inappropriate or you stupid or anything. I merely sought to explain why I drew the inference I did, which I still find perfectly reasonable. In the future I’ll know not assume there is any deliberation or intent behind your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5938 "2018-01-08T14:51:21Z")
> [@naita](#): > > I didn’t mean to imply the thread title made your post inappropriate or you stupid or anything. I merely sought to explain why I drew the inference I did, which I still find perfectly reasonable. In the future I’ll know not assume there is any deliberation or intent behind your posts. **SamuelA** found everything he said perfectly reasonable too. You both have that in common. Have you two compares family genealogy yet? I’m betting second cousins. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5939 "2018-01-08T15:17:18Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > I think a lot of his posts are at least related to the concept of concern trolling. He acts as if he’s above it all but goes around clicking his tongue whenever anyone on one particular side says just about anything. > > I mean, he started at least _four_ [ATMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831670) [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819322) [asking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=781432) [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=821619) the mods stop people from saying things about Trump that he found to be very wrong and uncivil, but don’t you dare suggest that it has anything to do with his feelings about Donald Trump. He even referenced this very sincere concern of his in his flounce thread. It is a continuous thing here for many of you to label simply the posters you don’t like for their politics as Trolls. Quartz is an asshole, but he is not a troll by a definition that is useful to mean something in any way different from “someone I do not like and disagrees with me politically above all.” The faking of positions or the dishonesty should be the substantial criteria. Look at **JBGUSA** - here is a troll for he pretends and very ostentatiously to be someone of the Left in the USA making claims of being a “very liberal democrat” or someone of the LEft (as ‘full disclosure’) … but this is a badly fitting mask. I can not recall any person on the American left ever so consistently hating Left oriented US presidents (he is negative in your presidents FDR and JFK both, although at different times). I remember reading here some time ago someone had found his postings at some hard right board, he is clearly engaged in what he thinks is a clever effort to convince Left audiences of his positions by pretending to be one of them… it is a dishonest pretending and clearly a form of the trolling. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5940 "2018-01-08T15:25:57Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > **SamuelA** found everything he said perfectly reasonable too. > You both have that in common. Have you two compares family genealogy yet? > I’m betting second cousins. Good one! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5941 "2018-01-08T15:34:28Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > It is a continuous thing here for many of you to label simply the posters you don’t like for their politics as Trolls. Quartz is an asshole, but he is not a troll by a definition that is useful to mean something in any way different from “someone I do not like and disagrees with me politically above all.” > > The faking of positions or the dishonesty should be the substantial criteria. > > Look at **JBGUSA** - here is a troll for he pretends and very ostentatiously to be someone of the Left in the USA making claims of being a “very liberal democrat” or someone of the LEft (as ‘full disclosure’) … but this is a badly fitting mask. I can not recall any person on the American left ever so consistently hating Left oriented US presidents (he is negative in your presidents FDR and JFK both, although at different times). > > I remember reading here some time ago someone had found his postings at some hard right board, he is clearly engaged in what he thinks is a clever effort to convince Left audiences of his positions by pretending to be one of them… > > it is a dishonest pretending and clearly a form of the trolling. Ah it was in this thread in this post: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Hey; speaking of weasels, has **JBGUSA** been noted in this thread yet? In [his latest thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20246062#post20246062), which seems to be part of a long-running project to write letters to people and then instead post them on the internet, we had a bunch of people provide links to other posts of his where he contradicts himself quite a bit about his political affiliation and plays fast-and-loose with facts. the link does indeed lead to the very thread where several people show that the person makes contradictory statements about the political affiliation clearly pretending in a effort to convince. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5942 "2018-01-08T16:03:50Z")
> [@Fire and Fury (upcoming Trump book) - intend to read it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fire-and-fury-upcoming-trump-book-intend-to-read-it/805855/130): > > Well, after the author came out and publicly said the book was bullshit, I have no desire to read it. I’ll just put it on the list with other books full of lies, like An Inconvenienty Truth and anything by the Clintons. Funny how there’s no link to this supposed admission of bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/5943 "2018-01-08T16:10:45Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, and also [here](https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/the-world/ww-i-korea-ww-ii-and-israel-heads-you-win-should-not-be-tails-i-lose/) > . > [and here.](http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/2869616-ww-i-korea-ww-ii-israel.html) Interesting find on **JGB**. Is he spreading the gospel according to **JGB** or just fond of seeing his words in print? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=296) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=298)