# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 312
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6224 "2018-01-21T18:20:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > As I’m now something of a scholar on the subject of intersectionality, let me clarify that for you, **John**. Different people are different in different ways that depends on their differences, so that people with some differences are differently different than those with other differences even though they have some of the same differences, because even the same differences will then be differently different, and that makes a difference. I hope I make myself clear. An example of this is Sammy Davis Jr, who was black, Jewish, a Democrat, and a Nixon supporter all at the same time, causing social scientists with clipboards to besiege him like ravenous wolves. OK, that makes a difference. But it gave me a migraine! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6225 "2018-01-21T18:49:35Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Different people are different in different ways that depends on their differences, so that people with some differences are differently different than those with other differences even though they have some of the same differences, because even the same differences will then be differently different, and that makes a difference. Reminds me of [John Finnemore’s Souvenir Programme](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx0lgwUFMJk) where he proposes an entirely new type of dog show\* (“a competition to determine which dog… looks most like… a dog”).\* Ah! [Found a script…](https://www.tombell.net/?p=1606) Imagine this said without taking a breath (liked I imagined **wolfpup** ’s :explanation"): “We can have sub-competitions. The Cocker Spaniel that looks most like a Cocker Spaniel, the Sealyham most like a Sealyham. And then, the winners of these contests will be pitted up against one another, and we will finally be able to determine whether the Labrador that looks most like a Labrador looks more like a Labrador than the Pug that looks most like a Pug looks like a Pug.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6226 "2018-01-21T20:51:11Z")
The responses reminded me of my HS biology teacher who once said that there are two types of people: “lumpers”, who sort groups into a few broad categories, and “splitters”, who divide groups into a lot of narrow categories. I am not absolutely certain, but I think he was being ironical. (I would have posted that in that thread, except, my hands are clean yet and I am out of virtual soap) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6227 "2018-01-21T21:10:13Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > He’s definitely trolling. Wait for the punchline, he’ll drop it pretty soon I suspect. The first clue was his into thread, in which he said we give off a “very scary vibe”, but never elaborates. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6228 "2018-01-21T21:19:46Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > He’s right, though. We leftees are absolutely obsessed about intersectionality. I can tell you for a fact I was obsessing about it so much last night that I couldn’t sleep all night. “Intersectionality! What is it?”, I kept saying to myself, “what does it mean?”. Intellectually tormented, I kept repeating these questions over and over until my Bernese Mountain Dog looked at me strangely and went to sleep in the other room. > > But as dawn broke, the sun’s first glimmering light seemed to bring an epiphany. “Yes!”, I bellowed, with the boundless joy of groundbreaking discovery, “I have it!” as my dog looked in cautiously through the doorway. “Intersectionality!”, I screamed! “It means: sometimes, things are complicated!” > > With lusty cries of “Eureka!” that made the walls tremble, I was prepared to run screaming through the neighborhood, Archimedes-like, until I noticed it was cold and snowy out and for some reason the damn dog was now whimpering in the corner. But I know that what I have achieved is only the first step. More intellectual progress must be made tonight, and another obsessive sleepless night awaits. > > And now I have a migraine. I’m an agnostic with dyslexia. I lay awake at night wondering if there really is a Dog. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6229 "2018-01-21T21:23:05Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I have a sense about [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=847463). He says that he gets migraines from the left’s suffocating obsession with something most of us have never heard of. I’d cut him a little bit of slack, for now. I’ve seen him elsewhere on the internet. Apparently, he’s in his mid to late teens, and is interested in politics. Problem is, that he’s been hanging out in a place that leans to the right, where everything is binary: one is either a leftist libtard who supports socialism, Obummer, and Shrillary; or one is a God-fearing patriotic American who believes that Trump walks on water. It seems not to occur to most in that place that one can, for example, be a Democrat who opposes abortion; or a Republican who doesn’t like the idea of a Mexican wall. It is a place unlike here, and compared to it, we would give off a scary vibe. Over there, assertions are made without cites; when cites do appear, they are in many cases to opinion blogs. Long, rambling posts are quoted in their entirety, only for the poster to say, “I agree!!!11!!” _Ad hominems_ are common. Moderation exists, but it is never explained; threads are simply cornfielded, rather than being locked with an explanation. If that’s his only experience so far, it is easy to see how his comments here might be seen as trolling. That’s why I say to cut him a little slack, for now. Maybe if he hangs out here, he’ll learn how to debate online; and that most people are somewhere between zero and one. Maybe I’m being too nice, but let’s see how he manages here. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6230 "2018-01-21T21:27:58Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I’m an agnostic with dyslexia. I lay awake at night wondering if there really is a Dog. !fooW ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6231 "2018-01-21T21:31:59Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I’m an agnostic with dyslexia. I lay awake at night wondering if there really is a Dog. Dog wonders about you, too. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6232 "2018-01-21T21:45:57Z")
[Here ya go](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20738242#post20738242). And, no, he’s not autistic. He’s got the language of a 4chan troll, and claiming to be autistic is their schtick. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6233 "2018-01-21T21:56:54Z")
Oops. There was a new page and I missed it. Still argue that his claim to be autistic and certain language I’m hesitant to articulate indicates a troll. Being autistic is not consistent with that style. It’s just a feeble excuse to make you think better of them. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6234 "2018-01-21T22:12:41Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’d cut him a little bit of slack, for now. > > I’ve seen him elsewhere on the internet. Apparently, he’s in his mid to late teens, and is interested in politics. Problem is, that he’s been hanging out in a place that leans to the right, where everything is binary: one is either a leftist libtard who supports socialism, Obummer, and Shrillary; or one is a God-fearing patriotic American who believes that Trump walks on water. It seems not to occur to most in that place that one can, for example, be a Democrat who opposes abortion; or a Republican who doesn’t like the idea of a Mexican wall. > > It is a place unlike here, and compared to it, we would give off a scary vibe. Over there, assertions are made without cites; when cites do appear, they are in many cases to opinion blogs. Long, rambling posts are quoted in their entirety, only for the poster to say, “I agree!!!11!!” _Ad hominems_ are common. Moderation exists, but it is never explained; threads are simply cornfielded, rather than being locked with an explanation. If that’s his only experience so far, it is easy to see how his comments here might be seen as trolling. > > That’s why I say to cut him a little slack, for now. Maybe if he hangs out here, he’ll learn how to debate online; and that most people are somewhere between zero and one. Maybe I’m being too nice, but let’s see how he manages here. I’m in no position to cut him slack or not, but suffice it to say that I’m avoiding that thread. The problem with this guy isn’t some particular incorrect belief, it seems to me to be multiple layers of stupidity, layer upon layer of stupid beliefs, all directed to the notion that liberals are idiots. His last gambit in that thread was hilarious. He finally drops the big “gotcha”: if an example of intersectionality is the intersection of sexism + race, then how about sexism against animals, huh? How about that? Yeah, I can see his point. How do you think an ambitious poodle bitch – maybe a dog show champion – feels when the Golden Retriever next door turns out to be a patronizing misogynist? Well, that zinger shut them up. Dang liberals – incapable of logical thinking! 😃 And now he’s looked up Wikipedia to show that animal rights is a thing, and therefore the illiterate imbecile thinks he was right. If he’s anything other than a troll or a hopeless moron, I would be amazed. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6235 "2018-01-21T22:25:57Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > And now he’s looked up Wikipedia to show that animal rights is a thing, and therefore the illiterate imbecile thinks he was right. If he’s anything other than a troll or a hopeless moron, I would be amazed. Why can’t he be both? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6236 "2018-01-21T22:33:10Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The first clue was his into thread, in which he said we give off a “very scary vibe”, but never elaborates. Want to bet he doesn’t gain at least 10 pounds here? Anyway, a short reprieve from our troll drought. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6237 "2018-01-21T22:35:03Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The responses reminded me of my HS biology teacher who once said that there are two types of people: “lumpers”, who sort groups into a few broad categories, and “splitters”, who divide groups into a lot of narrow categories. I am not absolutely certain, but I think he was being ironical. > > (I would have posted that in that thread, except, my hands are clean yet and I am out of virtual soap) “Lumper” and “Splitter” come up in a lot of the historical sciences, like biology and linguistics [Lumpers and splitters - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpers_and_splitters) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6238 "2018-01-21T22:40:58Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I’m in no position to cut him slack or not, but suffice it to say that I’m avoiding that thread. The problem with this guy isn’t some particular incorrect belief, it seems to me to be multiple layers of stupidity, layer upon layer of stupid beliefs, all directed to the notion that liberals are idiots. > > His last gambit in that thread was hilarious. He finally drops the big “gotcha”: if an example of intersectionality is the intersection of sexism + race, then how about sexism against animals, huh? How about that? Yeah, I can see his point. How do you think an ambitious poodle bitch – maybe a dog show champion – feels when the Golden Retriever next door turns out to be a patronizing misogynist? Well, that zinger shut them up. Dang liberals – incapable of logical thinking! 😃 > > And now he’s looked up Wikipedia to show that animal rights is a thing, and therefore the illiterate imbecile thinks he was right. If he’s anything other than a troll or a hopeless moron, I would be amazed. I just rechecked that thread. He’s in full-on troll mode now. I don’t think there is any more slack to be cut. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6239 "2018-01-21T22:45:14Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > That’s why I say to cut him a little slack, for now. Maybe if he hangs out here, he’ll learn how to debate online; and that most people are somewhere between zero and one. Maybe I’m being too nice, but let’s see how he manages here. What are we, the Shit Posters Liberation Front? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6240 "2018-01-21T23:02:49Z")
Maybe final exams are over and the trolls are free to play again. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6241 "2018-01-21T23:14:08Z")
No, we are the Liberation Front of Shit Posters. Who is the SPLF? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6242 "2018-01-21T23:15:41Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > No, we are the Liberation Front of Shit Posters. Who is the SPLF? Splitter! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/6243 "2018-01-21T23:21:42Z")
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