# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7324 "2018-03-19T14:08:12Z")

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A virgin on a round bed?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7325 "2018-03-19T14:23:34Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> We are incredibly fortunate to have **WillFarnaby** in our midst, who surfaces from time to time to enlighten us on matters that have eluded the greatest thinkers, statesmen, and economists throughout history, but which **WillFarnaby** has figured out. He is clearly either the greatest genius who ever lived, or a potentially dangerous unhinged lunatic who should be confined to a mental hospital. Most of us have our suspicions, but it can be said objectively and without prejudice that he is definitely one or the other.
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> [Over here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20852192&postcount=23), he offers just the kind of out-of-the-box thinking that defines this mysterious dichotomy of genius vs. mental patient. Economists may argue about how much public debt is healthy and manageable and what should be done about it, but not **WillFarnaby**. He believes that the US government should make the following announcement to all creditors of the $21 trillion in national debt: “Fuck you. We’re not paying you a cent. Just fuck off.”
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> **WillFarnaby** believes that this may cause a bit of disruption, but nothing too serious. Some individuals and corporations may become instantly bankrupt (well, all of them, really) along with the Federal Reserve, the social security system, and the entire economy, but at least there’s no need to worry about the value of the US dollar, since it’s backed by the full faith and credit of the US government, which would still be respected as a fine institution except for its tendency to never meet any of its obligations and use bad language instead.

Congratulations, you have been Farnabied.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7326 "2018-03-19T15:02:17Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> He believes that the US government should make the following announcement to all creditors of the $21 trillion in national debt: “Fuck you. We’re not paying you a cent. Just fuck off.”
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> **WillFarnaby** believes that this may cause a bit of disruption, but nothing too serious. Some individuals and corporations may become instantly bankrupt (well, all of them, really) along with the **Federal Reserve** , the social security system, and the entire economy, but at least there’s no need to worry about the value of the US dollar, since it’s backed by the full faith and credit of the US government, which would still be respected as a fine institution except for its tendency to never meet any of its obligations and use bad language instead.

(my bold) I have read serious people suggesting that, as a one off, there is no reason that the Fed couldn’t just forgive the US debt it holds. I don’t have much of an economics background, but apparently it really is just bookkeeping entries (it’s not like the Fed invests the money it gets back into some other asset - the dollars just disappear?). And of course it’s a different thing for the Fed to forgive the debt as opposed to the government saying ‘fuck off’.

But as for the rest of it, yeah, that’s crazy town.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7327 "2018-03-19T15:08:20Z")

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Tell China we just forgave our debt to them. How does that work?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7328 "2018-03-19T15:19:52Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Tell China we just forgave our debt to them. How does that work?

It’s simple, really. All we need to do is take a page from _Rosalie Goes Shopping_: If you owe the credit company $10,000 and you can’t pay it, _you_ have a problem. If you owe creditors $21T and can’t pay them, the _creditors_ have a problem.

I’m pretty sure that’s where WF learned all he’ll ever need to know about world economics.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7329 "2018-03-19T15:38:06Z")

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Ah, I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a pie today. That’ll work.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7330 "2018-03-19T16:08:18Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> (my bold) I have read serious people suggesting that, as a one off, there is no reason that the Fed couldn’t just forgive the US debt it holds. I don’t have much of an economics background, but apparently it really is just bookkeeping entries …

I’m the furthest thing from an economist, but it’s surely a lot more than that. The Fed has trillions in assets that it uses to manage monetary policy by buying and selling Treasury securities. Its liabilities include all the Federal Reserve notes in circulation (almost all paper money) and about a fifth of all bank accounts. Its hard to believe it could all just disappear without impact. But in any case, most other public debt is indisputably real and affects every sector of the financial system, public and private, and most intragovernmental debt represents social security and other trust funds.

> [@Folacin](#):
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> But as for the rest of it, yeah, that’s crazy town.

Yeah, mostly this. Without trust and credibility the government couldn’t function and for all practical purposes would cease to exist, which is what anarcho-libertarian lunatics like WF actually want. All the civilization they need consists of canned beans, water, moonshine, and a cave stocked with guns’n’ammo.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7331 "2018-03-19T17:57:55Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Hanson’s razor - “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”

Still, we need a counter-aphorism to explain a lot of what we see on this board:

“Never discount malice just because the stupidity is palpable and patently obvious.”

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7332 "2018-03-19T18:03:52Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> …
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> Yeah, mostly this. Without trust and credibility the government couldn’t function and for all practical purposes would cease to exist, which is what anarcho-libertarian lunatics like WF actually want. All the civilization they need consists of canned beans, water, moonshine, and a cave stocked with guns’n’ammo.

What’s the water for?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7333 "2018-03-19T18:18:49Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> What’s the water for?

Baptisms.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7334 "2018-03-19T18:27:02Z")

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I’ve no one to blame but myself for trying to reason, yet again, with that annoying twerp, L7.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7335 "2018-03-19T18:41:07Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Ah, I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a pie today. That’ll work.

No pie today. Only green jello with fruit cocktail added.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7336 "2018-03-19T19:38:19Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’ve no one to blame but myself for trying to reason, yet again, with that annoying twerp, L7.

We’ll see what he says (if he says) anything about why the hell he started the thread and didn’t actually read any of it.

He is a fuckbucket extraordinaire. Citing IGN. Why do we have no smilies for this?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7337 "2018-03-19T22:33:13Z")

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Ditka comes awfully close to admitting to trolling [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20854598&postcount=126).

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7338 "2018-03-20T00:48:31Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> We’ll see what he says (if he says) anything about why the hell he started the thread and didn’t actually read any of it.

Because he’s a troll. That’s the reason. There is no other explanation, he’s just a troll. He’s one of the most blatant trolls I can remember encountering on the SDMB, and the only mystery here is why this wasn’t immediately obvious to everyone else.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7339 "2018-03-20T02:34:53Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Ditka comes awfully close to admitting to trolling [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20854598&postcount=126).

I don’t know what you are reading but it is nothing close to trolling. Septimus comes much closer to trolling using cherrypicked facts.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7340 "2018-03-20T02:52:32Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Because he’s a troll. That’s the reason. There is no other explanation, he’s just a troll. He’s one of the most blatant trolls I can remember encountering on the SDMB, and the only mystery here is why this wasn’t immediately obvious to everyone else.

There was the whining about non-native English speaker, autistic, blah, blah, blah, and the complaining about how OTRU is a pit (heh) of negative judgmental poopy-heads. I decided to try cutting him some slack. All done. Troll. Bridge-dweller. He craves goats. Shit-stirrer. Troglodyte. May the sun strike him to stone.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7341 "2018-03-20T03:19:04Z")

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At this point, I assume anyone who pops in and uses 4chan language and says they have autism is a troll.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7342 "2018-03-20T03:28:12Z")

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He just plagiarized another source and said it was his. I found the original and posted it. Not sure what happens after that. Mockery?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7343 "2018-03-20T04:19:44Z")

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Nice going there, Sunny!

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