# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7404 "2018-03-20T16:52:14Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> \*\*Front Porch Swing Cocktail
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> 1 1⁄2 oz Cucumber Vodka  
> 3 oz White wine (sauvignon blanc, Sancerre, albariño or verdejo)  
> 1 oz St-Germain  
> 1 sprig Mint  
> 5 White or green grapes, halved  
> 1 Orange wheel  
> 5 Red grapes
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> Garnish with mint and serve in a large wine glass\*\*

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> What’s with all the grapes? They take up space that could be filled with booze.

This recipe has been graped by the Grapist!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7405 "2018-03-20T16:54:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Some of us enjoy a carefully crafted cocktail, while others seem to prefer chugging from the bottle. To each his own. 😃

You drink from a bottle?.. Luxury.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7406 "2018-03-20T16:55:24Z")

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7407 "2018-03-20T16:56:46Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> \<copyright material removed\>

Where was this cut and pasted from?

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7408 "2018-03-20T16:57:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Where was this cut and pasted from?

Site should be cookingclassy

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7409 "2018-03-20T16:58:53Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> This thread is now on a swing.

You bet it is. And YOU made it happen by calmly, and with almost surgical precision, picking apart their arguments one point at a time. At least, those points where they were able to keep up with you and follow along.

Never let a naysayer or ten stop your march dude.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7410 "2018-03-20T17:02:36Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Site should be cookingclassy

_Cite_ should be attributed, especially if you are going to just copy the whole page.  
But you’ve been told this several times already, haven’t you?

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7411 "2018-03-20T17:04:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> _Cite_ should be attributed, especially if you are going to just copy the whole page.  
> But you’ve been told this several times already, haven’t you?

At least I don’t say is mine :o

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7412 "2018-03-20T17:07:34Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> At least I don’t say is mine :o

That is _exactly_ what you are saying when you don’t give proper credit before/after your cut-and-paste jobs.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7413 "2018-03-20T17:08:55Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> \<removed copyrighted material\>

You very carefully left off [the next step.](https://www.cookingclassy.com/baked-pumpkin-churros/)

> [@](#):
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> Recipe source: Cooking Classy

So you deliberately left off the attribution.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7414 "2018-03-20T17:40:45Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> You drink from a bottle?.. Luxury.

We always just dumped our whisky into that low spot in the driveway where the puddle forms when it rains and lapped it up from there. All the gravel and crud in there added extra flavor, and if we were lucky, some tasty insects would drown in it before we were done. The best part was being able to keep drinking long after we were no longer able to stand up. But after we found Uncle Dennis lying there in the morning with tire tracks on his head, the whisky puddle tradition kind of fell by the wayside.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7415 "2018-03-20T17:44:28Z")

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Wait…driveway… You had a house??

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7416 "2018-03-20T17:45:53Z")

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Did I say it was _our_ driveway?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7417 "2018-03-20T17:47:34Z")

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Whisky Puddle Tradition-band name!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7418 "2018-03-20T17:47:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> _Cite_ should be attributed, especially if you are going to just copy the whole page.  
> But you’ve been told this several times already, haven’t you?

Since when have the recipes people have plagiarized been complained about for lacking proper attribution? We all know each recipe posting poster is not a chef on the level of a Betty Crocker or Martha Stewart.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7419 "2018-03-20T17:48:00Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Did I say it was _our_ driveway?

Public driveway? That may not be whiskey. Did it have an ammonia smell?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7420 "2018-03-20T17:55:16Z")

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[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20856037&postcount=134](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20856037&postcount=134)

This guy, in the Nazi thread, is having a great convo with himself. A sleeper account who made his second post, in 4 years, in a zombie.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7421 "2018-03-20T17:57:11Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Did I say it was _our_ driveway?

Still, you had family. Nice.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7422 "2018-03-20T18:01:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Since when have the recipes people have plagiarized been complained about for lacking proper attribution? We all know each recipe posting poster is not a chef on the level of a Betty Crocker or Martha Stewart.

[US Copyright Office](https://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html)

> [@](#):
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> Copyright law does not protect recipes that are mere listings of ingredients. Nor does it protect other mere listings of ingredients such as those found in formulas, compounds, or prescriptions.\*\* Copyright protection may, however, extend to substantial literary expression—a description, explanation, or illustration,\*\* for example—that accompanies a recipe or formula or to a combination of recipes, as in a cookbook.

**Czarcasm** posted a list of ingredients with his own instructions. The instructions are the copyrightable part.

Here’s the [original recipe](http://www.7x7.com/8-summer-cocktails-to-make-right-now-recipes-1787191514.html).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7423 "2018-03-20T18:05:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [US Copyright Office](https://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html)  
> **Czarcasm** posted a list of ingredients with his own instructions. The instructions are the copyrightable part.
> 
> Here’s the [original recipe](http://www.7x7.com/8-summer-cocktails-to-make-right-now-recipes-1787191514.html).

Actually, I got the recipe from a great bartender who used to work at Atwater’s here in Portland many years ago.

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