# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 399
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7964 "2018-05-16T05:43:28Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I’m constantly surprised and annoyed at the idea that this board chases off Conservatives. At least this is one of the boards that gives them rope. I have heard rumors that there are boards where posters get banned in short order for going a little bit off-message, though I have never been on one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7965 "2018-05-16T05:54:02Z")
There’s plenty of all sorts of boards, conservative ones as well, where if you question the echo chamber, you get banned. Try even slightly questioning why someone needs an AR-15 or a 30 round magazine on a gun board. Try defending Obama on a Conservative board. Doesn’t matter if you’re polite and factual. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7966 "2018-05-16T06:17:11Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Who’s running the pool on the time to **Clothy’s** trock appearing? Isn’t **Ruined** a prime contender for the trock? (Good neologism, by the way.) ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7967 "2018-05-16T07:34:00Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I’m constantly surprised and annoyed at the idea that this board chases off Conservatives. > > Half of them get themselves banned for their words or actions. Insults, trolling and hate speech. No one made them do those things, but they are quite typical for American Conservatives, who mock the left as ‘snowflakes’ who can’t take criticism then show themselves to be exactly that. What are the key hallmarks of a troll? - Rarely/never posting substantive comments - Throwing out inflammatory/stupid comments then doing little to nothing to defend them - Derailing threads by turning them into a bunch of people calling them or their argument stupid We had a conservative poster here for _18 fucking years_ who fit all those hallmarks. They never posted substantive comments. They never took part in debate in any meaningful way. Their comments were, consistently, the single worst thing in almost every single thread they took part in, with the threads consistently devolving into “The Troll Show”. And it took repeating an (incredibly stupid) line of argument that they had previously personally admitted was trolling to get them banned. Epistemic closure is one thing; not putting up with the guy who constantly shouts “FUCK OFF RETARDS” at the top of his lungs and has nothing of value to offer literally any conversation is not that. I’m glad that’s over with. Good riddance to incredibly bad rubbish. It’s astonishing it took this long, but at this point I’m just happy it’s done. Also, anyone who seriously thinks **Ruined** is **Clothahump** ’s sock has clearly not spent much time reading the latter’s posts. Like, holy shit - this person is actually putting effort into their post, making rational points - I may disagree to many of them, or feel it leans too heavily on anecdotes, but they’re clearly thinking - and trying to look like something other than the loudest, dumbest, most douchey guy in the room. **Ruined** , if you’re reading this, welcome to the Dope. Damn good first post. I don’t agree with you, but that single post has more substantive reasoning and actual content than literally everything I’ve seen **Clothy** post in the last year. Word of advice: the mods don’t take lightly to casual use of the word “fag”, or other slurs. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7968 "2018-05-16T08:36:31Z")
Having read the rest of the thread my opinion of **Ruined** has sunk somewhat, but he’s still well within the top quarter of right-wing posters here imho. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7969 "2018-05-16T09:42:01Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > **Ruined** , if you’re reading this, welcome to the Dope. Damn good first post. I don’t agree with you, but that single post has more substantive reasoning and actual content than literally everything I’ve seen **Clothy** post in the last year. Word of advice: the mods don’t take lightly to casual use of the word “fag”, or other slurs. I concur - it was a well-written and substantive post and far beyond anything the recently-departed has ever produced. It therefore disappointed me that the first response was **Morgenstern** in a rather puerile mood. I mean, **Ruined** ’s posts are filled with outright false information and weak arguments but I’ve seen nothing to suggest our new friend is either a trock or otherwise arguing in bad faith. There’s plenty to actually debate and debunk there, unlike **Clothahump** ’s usual “I’m right because I’m right-wing neener neener neener” nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7970 "2018-05-16T09:48:03Z")
Yeah, we’re dealing with a **Bricker** - or **HurricaneDitka** -level poster - I think you’re wrong, dangerously so, but you’re clearly putting quite a bit of thought into it either way, and I can respect that. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7971 "2018-05-16T13:28:40Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yeah, we’re dealing with a **Bricker** - or **HurricaneDitka** -level poster - I think you’re wrong, dangerously so, but you’re clearly putting quite a bit of thought into it either way, and I can respect that. Looks like you (and **Sunny Daze** ) did due diligence in your ATMB thread, convincing the mods to ban the poster. I’m rarely a fan of banning posters, and I never really engaged with that guy so he didn’t bothered me, but credit where credit is due. Good prosecutorial work! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7972 "2018-05-16T13:59:35Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Looks like you (and **Sunny Daze** ) did due diligence in your ATMB thread, convincing the mods to ban the poster. I’m rarely a fan of banning posters, and I never really engaged with that guy so he didn’t bothered me, but credit where credit is due. Good prosecutorial work! You just told a B troll he did good? You are getting old. (Not you Sunny, you have your ducks in a row.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7973 "2018-05-16T14:50:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Isn’t **Ruined** a prime contender for the trock? (Good neologism, by the way.) > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Also, anyone who seriously thinks **Ruined** is **Clothahump** ’s sock has clearly not spent much time reading the latter’s posts. Like, holy shit - this person is actually putting effort into their post, making rational points - I may disagree to many of them, or feel it leans too heavily on anecdotes, but they’re clearly thinking - and trying to look like something other than the loudest, dumbest, most douchey guy in the room. [It’s one of the other banned Trumpeteers.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20962319#post20962319) ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7974 "2018-05-16T15:06:25Z")
**Urbanredneck** and **Aceplace** - are they trolls, playing dumb? Or are they just dumb? Also, are they the same exact person? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7975 "2018-05-16T15:10:37Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [It’s one of the other banned Trumpeteers.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20962319#post20962319) It’s so amazing. Everything points to trock, yet there is a crowd that wants to feed and care for it thinking it will develop into a wonderful member who loves kitties. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7976 "2018-05-16T16:37:16Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You just told a B troll he did good? You are getting old. > > (Not you Sunny, you have your ducks in a row.) Like Clothy, you admitted to trolling this board. Should we ask the mods to be consistent in their bannings? For another fine example of Morgenstern trolling, search for his California independence thread. Pot Kettle Black ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7977 "2018-05-16T17:05:14Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Like Clothy, you admitted to trolling this board. Should we ask the mods to be consistent in their bannings? > > For another fine example of Morgenstern trolling, search for his California independence thread. > > Pot > Kettle > Black We call you **Madsirderp** for two reasons. 1, you’re a lying prick. 2. you’re a doofus. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7978 "2018-05-16T17:24:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Second the mod. I want to let you know that I put that there on purpose. I knew my post would be addressed the way it has and also knew that the recognition of that word tells me a lot about the person posting. That’s from our new friend who’s name rhymes with Bruiner. Seems like an admission of trolling to me, but we’ll see how Miller reacts. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7979 "2018-05-16T17:54:41Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You just told a B troll he did good? You are getting old. > > (Not you Sunny, you have your ducks in a row.) And this is why people don’t take your troll pronouncements seriously. I disagree with **BPC** on some things, and think he’s getting a bit too far into the New Atheist mindset, but I have seen absolutely no evidence of trolling from him at all. And, yes, go ahead and call me a troll, too. That doesn’t devalue the term at all. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7980 "2018-05-16T17:58:25Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And, yes, go ahead and call me a troll, too. I thought that was what the “T” stood for… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7981 "2018-05-16T18:25:35Z")
“T” is for “Tennessee”. Everybody knows that. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7982 "2018-05-16T18:28:29Z")
Huh. I was mistakenly thinking he was [this guy](https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3511/3962303326_f212cea202_b.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/7983 "2018-05-16T18:29:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I disagree with **BPC** on some things, and think he’s getting a bit too far into the New Atheist mindset, Oooh, [sick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism) [burn](https://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/), PastorT! Next you might accuse of him using (scare quotes) _critical thinking!!_ (/scare quotes) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=398) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=400)