# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8004 "2018-05-17T23:13:28Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Miller deleted it because the CIA threatened to give him a job managing an insane asylum if he didn’t.

Lateral move. 😉

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8005 "2018-05-18T02:50:52Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> **DrDeth** [has been having odd notions](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=855009) [again](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=787184).

You have GOT to read through the first link. After dozens of shrill posts showing DrDeth’s almost-irrational fear of the Pit…

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> But you see, they have forced me (or others) to post in the Pit

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> rather than forcing them into the Pit.

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> you are forcing those that already posted in good faith there into the Pit.

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> thus your participation in the Pit has been forced on you.

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> thus you have been forced into participating in a Pit thread.

…I would tip the mods to have that thread moved…

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8006 "2018-05-18T11:56:22Z")

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It is a slippery slope–posting the pit is a gateway towards using the word “an”!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8007 "2018-05-18T12:11:49Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> …I would tip the mods to have that thread moved…

I reported the OP, suggesting it be moved to the **PIT**.  
Have you?

ETA: kudos to **Fenris** for the “WOOOOOSH” comment.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8008 "2018-05-18T12:36:35Z")

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> [@Moving threads to The Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moving-threads-to-the-pit/814357/53):
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> I dont 'think"\* the Pit is somehow special \* it\* is\*. It has special rules. It is the only place here where you can insult other posters.

Heh. People are subtly insulting him in his ATMB thread, he’s just too dim to realize it.😃

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8009 "2018-05-18T13:19:22Z")

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Really, haven’t we all just [fallen into the pit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMpfbuI9FY)?

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8010 "2018-05-18T14:06:37Z")

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**Ace** is now finding “hymens” on electrical outlets. Jesus, dude, get yer mind outta the gutter!

I guess when you’re a dick, everything looks like a pussy.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8011 "2018-05-18T15:16:22Z")

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**Phipps** is really hittin’ overdrive in the Mueller threads.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8012 "2018-05-18T16:19:46Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> **Phipps** is really hittin’ overdrive in the Mueller threads.

“Look, kid, your enthusiasm is inspiring, and don’t think I don’t appreciate all the help— but seriously, take a break.”

— _The Devil_

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8013 "2018-05-18T17:24:02Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> **Phipps** is really hittin’ overdrive in the Mueller threads.

Phippin’ weirds message boards.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8014 "2018-05-18T17:24:03Z")

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I get really frustrated with so many people taking F-P seriously (they actually debate his points like he’s making honest attempts to understand the facts).

But there was one response that brilliantly summed up what’s been so obvious:

> [@Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4522):
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> You aren’t making reasonable inferences from the evidence, which is what people do when they try to make a neutral decision. Instead, you’re arguing like a defense lawyer. That’s fine, but those of us trying to judge the evidence don’t have to sit in that posture.

Although I might call it the opposite of fine…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8015 "2018-05-19T18:57:00Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> It is a slippery slope–posting the pit is a gateway towards using the word “an”!

Or referring to someone on TV by a [nickname.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20968857&postcount=315) :eek:

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8016 "2018-05-19T19:42:53Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Or referring to someone on TV by a [nickname.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20968857&postcount=315) :eek:

Or by their [character](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=789733) [name](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=790048).

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8017 "2018-05-19T22:39:26Z")

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> [@Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4522):
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> I get really frustrated with so many people taking F-P seriously (they actually debate his points like he’s making honest attempts to understand the facts).
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> But there was one response that brilliantly summed up what’s been so obvious:
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> > [@Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4522):
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> > You aren’t making reasonable inferences from the evidence, which is what people do when they try to make a neutral decision. Instead, you’re arguing like a defense lawyer. That’s fine, but those of us trying to judge the evidence don’t have to sit in that posture.
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> Although I might call it the opposite of fine…

That interpretation of F-P’s argument style is really much too kind. Making unreasonable inferences from the evidence is what F-P does in his rare periods of rational lucidity. The rest of the time, as I found out from trying to debate him on health care, the “evidence” he presents is either flat-out wrong or deceptively cherry-picked. It’s a lot like debating with a gun nut. The only thing that matters is that they win the argument. Even acknowledging inconvenient facts, let alone being swayed by them, is not in the cards.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8018 "2018-05-20T11:57:02Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Or referring to someone on TV by a [nickname.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20968857&postcount=315) :eek:

The book or the movie?!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8019 "2018-05-20T15:44:33Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Heh. People are subtly insulting him in his ATMB thread, he’s just too dim to realize it.😃

Subtly? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8020 "2018-05-20T16:25:10Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Or by their [character](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=789733) [name](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=790048).

Shut up, Derwood. 😃

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8021 "2018-05-20T17:08:36Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Subtly? :dubious:

Subtly enough to woosh right over his head!😃

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8022 "2018-05-20T17:45:31Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Subtly enough to woosh right over his head!😃

He must be pretty short; it smacked the rest of us right in the face.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8023 "2018-05-21T09:14:09Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> That interpretation of F-P’s argument style is really much too kind. Making unreasonable inferences from the evidence is what F-P does in his rare periods of rational lucidity. The rest of the time, as I found out from trying to debate him on health care, the “evidence” he presents is either flat-out wrong or deceptively cherry-picked. It’s a lot like debating with a gun nut. The only thing that matters is that they win the argument. Even acknowledging inconvenient facts, let alone being swayed by them, is not in the cards.

His approach to the Trump investigations basically boils down to:

1. A snowflake melts at the slightest touch.
2. Avalanches are made up of snowflakes.
3. Therefore, avalanches will melt at the slightest touch.

If he can just find some minor quibble with as many elements of the investigation as possible, this will magically render the entire thing insubstantial. _poof_

It doesn’t make him a troll. It does make him look increasingly desperate, however.

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