# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8264 "2018-06-14T00:57:46Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> In any other place than The Pit I agree. In any other thread than one that calls out other posters and widens the in group/out group dichotomy.

No, the world doesn’t work like that. If you are an asshole in the Pit, you’re still an asshole. Expressing anger and contempt is what the Pit is for, it’s not a free pass like Purge night.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8265 "2018-06-14T01:01:22Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> No, the world doesn’t work like that. If you are an asshole in the Pit, you’re still an asshole. Expressing anger and contempt is what the Pit is for, it’s not a free pass like Purge night.

Are you arguing the two replies to Bones post were assholish? I don’t agree. Expressing anger and contempt is far more assholish that a mild risque joke aimed to amuse.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8266 "2018-06-14T01:05:27Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Are you arguing the two replies to Bones post were assholish? I don’t agree. Expressing anger and contempt is far more assholish that a mild risque joke aimed to amuse.

Yeah, I know we disagree. Those responses were kinda gross. Being risque is rather beside the point.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8267 "2018-06-14T01:12:55Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Yeah, I know we disagree. Those responses were kinda gross. Being risque is rather beside the point.

I agree with you more about the Whiskey Dickens post. I’m not sure I’m getting it. But the Blazzing Saddles quote was right on and I could hear it in the late great Slim Pickens voice. Bone had nailed it like Harvey Korman.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8268 "2018-06-14T01:18:27Z")

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You realize that Blazing Saddles is over 40 fucking years old and no one should be expected to get a reference to it and that’s problematic because it made a bunch of outrageous comments that are only funny “in a good way” in context. How often do you whip out “Nobody move or the nigger gets it!”?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8269 "2018-06-14T01:26:39Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I just wanted to state that he apologized to me to show he’s not a monster. No I have no first hand knowledge of that problem you have with him. I am just saying. This is my experience.

You are correct. Morgenstern is not a monster. He is, however, lonely and a manipulative bully and treats these boards and the posters as just things in a game. It’s sad because he clearly isn’t stupid.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8270 "2018-06-14T01:31:07Z")

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> [@Delicious](#):
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> You know, your association with and defence of an unrelenting asshole doesn’t reflect well on you. So he apologised to you for being a misogynistic prick? I’m glad you were there to accept on behalf of all women, otherwise he wouldn’t have had a flimsy facade of feminism to cloak his dickishness in.

Someone asked when he apologized and I have answered. I accepted on behalf on myself and I don’t know why you think I answer for all women.

I don’t defend him. He does that all by himself.

I’ll start the damn Pit thread myself.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8271 "2018-06-14T01:32:50Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You realize that Blazing Saddles is over 40 fucking years old and no one should be expected to get a reference to it and that’s problematic because it made a bunch of outrageous comments that are only funny “in a good way” in context. How often do you whip out “Nobody move or the nigger gets it!”?

Richard Pryor wrote those lines and they are still funny today. I wouldn’t quote it but its funny.

The Slim Pickens line isn’t objectionable in an adult conversation.

Blazzing Saddles is iconic, more so than Monty Python. Yet we are expected to get those references. Ill repeat. This Board and especially The Pit are for adults. This is not 1953. We don’t need to protect our womenfolk from everything. We need some off-color in our lives.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8272 "2018-06-14T01:39:15Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You realize that Blazing Saddles is over 40 fucking years old and no one should be expected to get a reference to it and that’s problematic because it made a bunch of outrageous comments that are only funny “in a good way” in context. How often do you whip out “Nobody move or the nigger gets it!”?

Every time I get together with the local _Blazing Saddles_ re-enactment group.

We meet at the [Howard Johnson’s](https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/hojo/ceres-california/howard-johnson-express-inn-modesto-ceres/overview?brand_id=HJ&checkin_date=6/13/2018&checkout_date=6/14/2018&useWRPoints=false&children=0&adults=1&rooms=1&radius=25&brand_code=BH,DI,RA,BU,HJ,KG,MT,SE,TL,WG,WY,WT,WP,VO,DX,TM,CE,AA&PriceFilter=0-2147483647&latitude=37.4946568&longitude=-120.8465941) in Ceres.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8273 "2018-06-14T01:44:38Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Richard Pryor wrote those lines and they are still funny today. I wouldn’t quote it but its funny.
> 
> The Slim Pickens line isn’t objectionable in an adult conversation.
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> Blazzing Saddles is iconic, more so than Monty Python. Yet we are expected to get those references. Ill repeat. This Board and especially The Pit are for adults. This is not 1953. We don’t need to protect our womenfolk from everything. We need some off-color in our lives.

Oh for God’s sake. I’m an adult. I don’t get offended by adult humour. It was just a fucked up place to put the joke. Also I think people who use movie references as jokes are mostly useless morons. Yes, even (in fact particularly) Monty Python references.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8274 "2018-06-14T01:48:23Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Oh for God’s sake. I’m an adult. I don’t get offended by adult humour. It was just a fucked up place to put the joke. Also I think people who use movie references as jokes are mostly useless morons. Yes, even (in fact particularly) Monty Python references.

Harummpppffff!! 😛

Point taken.🙂

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8275 "2018-06-14T01:53:11Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I agree with you more about the Whiskey Dickens post. I’m not sure I’m getting it. But the Blazzing Saddles quote was right on and I could hear it in the late great Slim Pickens voice. Bone had nailed it like Harvey Korman.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You realize that Blazing Saddles is over 40 fucking years old and no one should be expected to get a reference to it and that’s problematic because it made a bunch of outrageous comments that are only funny “in a good way” in context. How often do you whip out “Nobody move or the nigger gets it!”?

> [@madsircool](#):
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> Richard Pryor wrote those lines and they are still funny today. I wouldn’t quote it but its funny.
> 
> The Slim Pickens line isn’t objectionable in an adult conversation.
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> Blazzing Saddles is iconic, more so than Monty Python. Yet we are expected to get those references. Ill repeat. This Board and especially The Pit are for adults. This is not 1953. We don’t need to protect our womenfolk from everything. We need some off-color in our lives.

Of course the Pit is for adults. If you wouldn’t quote the “shoot the nigger” bit, broaden your understanding of the modern world and don’t quote the $20 whore bit either

Also, **Morgenstern** thread up. Have fun, try the steak, tip your waiter.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8276 "2018-06-14T02:04:20Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> Well if you end up deciding he is a monster, seriously, please do not start a pit thread about him. He really would savor that kind of attention. You saw how much **octopus** loved his.

It may have stoked his ego, but it gave him something to focus on and kept his tentacles out of this thread.

Until **Today, 08:26 PM** …

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8277 "2018-06-14T02:06:50Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> It may have stoked his ego, but it kept his tentacles out of this thread.
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> Until **Today, 08:26 PM** …

That’s because I don’t have as much interest in hunting people all over the board and looking for things to harass or call them troll/sock/trock/soll w/e as most of the people here do.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8278 "2018-06-14T02:09:41Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Of course the Pit is for adults. If you wouldn’t quote the “shoot the nigger” bit, broaden your understanding of the modern world and don’t quote the $20 whore bit either
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> Also, **Morgenstern** thread up. Have fun, try the steak, tip your waiter.

If you are conflating the two quotes then I completely disagree. The N word is a powerful personal insult directed at an individual designed to degrade him; the whore remark was used as a backhanded complement not directed at a woman and not designed to degrade. I understand your argument but I disagree with it.

The propriety in the use of any word is context and time and place.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8279 "2018-06-14T02:12:20Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Of course the Pit is for adults. If you wouldn’t quote the “shoot the nigger” bit, broaden your understanding of the modern world and don’t quote the $20 whore bit either
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> Also, **Morgenstern** thread up. Have fun, try the steak, tip your waiter.

Not a good thing. I won’t participate and I think his issues run deeper than trolling and insults. I don’t enjoy pointing and laughing nor punching someone when they are down.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8280 "2018-06-14T02:21:04Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Not a good thing. I won’t participate and I think his issues run deeper than trolling and insults. I don’t enjoy pointing and laughing nor punching someone when they are down.

Wait, you think he’s seriously mentally ill?

If that’s the case perhaps a mental health hotline and some encouragement to seek treatment is what he needs.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8281 "2018-06-14T02:28:32Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Wait, you think he’s seriously mentally ill?
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> If that’s the case perhaps a mental health hotline and some encouragement to seek treatment is what he needs.

I don’t think sadism and a lack of empathy come from nothing. I can’t know if he is mentally ill. He could just be a sociopath. I hope he came from a bad background and can learn from these experiences to see the world in a better way.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8282 "2018-06-14T02:30:45Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> If you are conflating the two quotes then I completely disagree. The N word is a powerful personal insult directed at an individual designed to degrade him; the whore remark was used as a backhanded complement not directed at a woman and not designed to degrade. I understand your argument but I disagree with it.
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> The propriety in the use of any word is context and time and place.

I am utterly mystified by the idea that the word “whore” is not designed to degrade, and is in any way a backhanded compliment.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8283 "2018-06-14T02:37:41Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I am utterly mystified by the idea that the word “whore” is not designed to degrade, and is in any way a backhanded compliment.

It was a backhanded compliment directed at Harvey Kormans character. His speech was flowery like the speaker would have expected (in 1880) from a high classed woman of the evening. Context.

When Nikki Minaj raps in anaconda about Fuck them skinny bitches your point is much stronger. Hi is popular with both young men and women. You are fighting a losing battle.

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