# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 420
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8384 "2018-06-21T22:36:16Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > That jacket was one of the dumbest things I think I have ever seen a first lady do. Stupid. In her position, it’s hard to imagine _any_ context in which wearing that jacket could not be interpreted very poorly. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8385 "2018-06-21T22:45:59Z")
Who needs to wear a jacket in June? (North of the tropics, at least.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8386 "2018-06-21T22:46:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I know she isn’t a Doper (as far as we know), but damn, this is some [ballsy trolling](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/melania-trump-jacket-i-really-dont-care-for-border-children-visit.html). But her only other option was the jacket that said “_el trabajo libera_”, so I think she made the better choice. No? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8387 "2018-06-21T23:36:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Who needs to wear a jacket in June? (North of the tropics, at least.) It’s raining it parts of Texas today. It was a rain coat. She was in fashion. She probably has 100 coats. Just really dumb. I had a bit of respect and pity for her. Not any more. Does she not have a stylist? And, it is a jacket geared to teens. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8388 "2018-06-22T00:53:42Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > It’s raining it parts of Texas today. It was a rain coat. She was in fashion. She probably has 100 coats. Just really dumb. I had a bit of respect and pity for her. Not any more. Does she not have a stylist? > And, it is a jacket geared to teens. U sur? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8389 "2018-06-22T04:29:13Z")
A [Bloom County joke](https://i.imgur.com/CSXj7Eh.jpg) is in there somewhere but I’m off to bed. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8390 "2018-06-22T04:59:58Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > It’s raining it parts of Texas today. It was a rain coat. She was in fashion. She probably has 100 coats. Just really dumb. I had a bit of respect and pity for her. Not any more. Does she not have a stylist? > And, it is a jacket geared to teens. All the reports I’ve seen state that she did not wear the coat in Texas; only getting on and off her plane in DC (in dry, 80-degree weather). Also, according to an interviewee on NPR this morning, she has a staff of ten, which is about one-third of the listed numbers for her predecessor. I haven’t seen a complete list, but most staff positions I could find appear to be related to event/travel planning and communications, which seems generally in line with previous FLOTUS staff. I haven’t seen a ‘stylist’ listed as an official White House position. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8391 "2018-06-22T05:20:12Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > All the reports I’ve seen state that she did not wear the coat in Texas; only getting on and off her plane in DC (in dry, 80-degree weather). I can understand, though. She gets cold easily. From what I can tell, she has about 4mm of flesh on her skeleton. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8392 "2018-06-22T12:03:47Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I know she isn’t a Doper (as far as we know), but damn, this is some [ballsy trolling](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/melania-trump-jacket-i-really-dont-care-for-border-children-visit.html). Ballsy Trolling sounds like a little village in the UK. “Me and the missus are motoring down Ballsy Trolling on holiday to visit wif her mum.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8393 "2018-06-22T12:16:00Z")
So, Jeff Beck pops 'is 'ead 'round the door, and mentions there’s a little sweet shop on the edge of town… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8394 "2018-06-22T13:20:37Z")
Maresy dotes and dosey dotes and little ballsy trolling. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8395 "2018-06-22T14:26:54Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > It’s raining it parts of Texas today. It was a rain coat. She was in fashion. She probably has 100 coats. Just really dumb. I had a bit of respect and pity for her. Not any more. Does she not have a stylist? > And, it is a jacket geared to teens. She probably has a hundred coats but a $40 coat? I bet her socks cost more than that. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8396 "2018-06-22T14:35:56Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > She probably has a hundred coats but a $40 coat? I bet her socks cost more than that. She was posting on another board as **LetsEatCake** , IIRC. The sock cost her nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8397 "2018-06-22T15:47:37Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > In her position, it’s hard to imagine _any_ context in which wearing that jacket could not be interpreted very poorly. Yeah, no kiddin’. It’s not the kind of jacket you would wear when your visit included an immigrant detention center in TX. Guess she was advised to wear it to appeal to Wun Dum Fuk’s hard-core base. Wun Dum Fuk claimed it meant not caring about the fake press. Don’t forget the words he put in his doctor’s mouth about his glowing health, and from others stating since his youth that he has always had a propensity for not telling the truth, every day there is another litany of 'em. He’s been lying since out of the womb. Possibly even before that. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8398 "2018-06-23T19:20:39Z")
On [disgraceful](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=857280) **fervour** : > [@Melania Trump is a piece of shit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/197): > > on a board that is overwhelmingly anti-Trump, you’ve managed to turn the conversation away from Melania to what an asshole you are. I’m astonished. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8399 "2018-06-24T05:41:04Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The “fringe nuts” are now [90% of the Republican Party](https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx). Which is an interesting way of defining “fringe”. > > I’m progressive, and I’ve noted before that virtually every democracy in every advanced country in the western world makes the American Democratic Party look so conservative that it’s hard to imagine there could be anything further to the right. Turns out there is, it’s called the “Republican Party”, and it is indeed hard to imagine that it could actually exist in a rational world. But according to you – the same source that declared support for Trumpism to be “fringe” – I must be a loon, because I support things like universal health care and the humane treatment of immigrants. Rational world? Republicans such as myself yearn for individual rights, preservation of the constitution and self reliance, with a basic social safety net and a per need basis and support gains through merit and not placement (when possible), through individual effort and perseverance. We are not all bigoted, ignorant or evil. We want what is best for each individual, not individual groups. We rely on what is tried and true, rather than speculation or social experiments. We do not rely so much on emotions as we do rationality and common sense. We do not deny things because they are inconvenient or upsetting. We accept what humans are and try to work with that instead of what we ought to be. That is rational. Assuming we as Americans are obligated to take care of those who enter illegally or pay for the health care of others (through taxation if implemented universally) is arrogant and _irrational_. Don’t get me wrong, ideally that would be nice and I would support it if it were possible but it is not, not without degrading the quality of life for everyone else to some degree. There is not a republican soul who wouldn’t want to help others and the country as a whole, as long is it doesn’t upset their bottom line too much (this is the part about accepting what humans are instead of dreaming that we are not selfish greedy monsters, you work with what you’ve got.) Just my opinion, you’re free to have yours as well even if I do not accept it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8400 "2018-06-24T05:58:52Z")
Otoh, the governing principles which worked in making a collection of independent colonies into an 18th-century agrarian country, one shut off from the world by two oceans and weeks of travel time for people _and_ information, may just be totally insufficient to govern a post-industrial hyperpower in a world with instantaneous communications and nuclear missles. In fact, I think this likelihood is rather strong. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8401 "2018-06-24T06:02:41Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > There is not a republican soul who wouldn’t want to help others and the country as a whole, as long is it doesn’t upset their bottom line too much This is both the funniest and saddest thing I’ve read today - and both are because I think you might actually believe it. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8402 "2018-06-24T07:48:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Otoh, the governing principles which worked in making a collection of independent colonies into an 18th-century agrarian country, one shut off from the world by two oceans and weeks of travel time for people _and_ information, may just be totally insufficient to govern a post-industrial hyperpower in a world with instantaneous communications and nuclear missles. > > In fact, I think this likelihood is rather strong. What part of the principles of governing that were set forth are insufficient? Do they not appeal to nearly every aspect of life living in this country in a a succinct combination of specifics and generalities that hold true for governance in most other civilized countries? Were they not enough that the mere fact of them existing has fostered the innovation and led us into a post-industrial hyperpower status and have given the advent of most of and plenty of refinement to all of our modern day technologies and conveniences? These are rhetorical questions. The system of governance works just fine and once everyone is ready to have a collective change it will happen, such is sociological evolution. The United States was an experiment that succeeded, why test the experiment with another experiment if it is nominally in working order? ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8403 "2018-06-24T07:52:16Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > This is both the funniest and saddest thing I’ve read today - and both are because I think you might actually believe it. Thus is the smug elitist attitude that led to DJT becoming President, much to your dismay. Now I didn’t vote out of spite, but that attitude does lead me to believe many did and I can definitely see why. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=419) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=421)