# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 454
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9064 "2019-01-07T17:57:27Z")
**D’unningkruger** will eventually stumble across a “gotcha” nut if he flails around with his cane long enough. Statistically it should’ve already happened by now, but he somehow keeps trodding on rake after rake. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9065 "2019-01-13T03:39:51Z")
How about [**upekizing**](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868734)? He seems a little off… ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9066 "2019-01-13T04:15:22Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > How about [**upekizing**](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868734)? He seems a little off… Yeah. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=857593](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=857593) Reminds me of that DkTrdGuy. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9067 "2019-01-13T15:47:21Z")
I think I’ve mentioned Alfishius before, but their posting style might not rise to trolling, but it is very, very weird. Months between replies, usually bumping dead threads with a substanceless reply. Look at the end of [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=135264) thread especially. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9068 "2019-01-13T20:40:00Z")
Eh, not going to do research on the poster in question, but if you are an irregular visitor & your first stop is the “subscriptions” page, that’s what would happen. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9069 "2019-01-13T23:15:59Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I think I’ve mentioned Alfishius before, but their posting style might not rise to trolling, but it is very, very weird. Months between replies, usually bumping dead threads with a substanceless reply. Look at the end of [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=135264) thread especially. That’s weird. I’d have to look further to see if the posting history confirms **JohnT** ’s theory. Don’t wanna. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9070 "2019-01-14T01:55:18Z")
Here’s a sampling from **DJ Motorbike**. He’s got an older join date, but he’s got some wacky views. > [@The Tulsi Gabbard Presidential campaign thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tulsi-gabbard-presidential-campaign-thread/827665/16): > > > [@The Tulsi Gabbard Presidential campaign thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tulsi-gabbard-presidential-campaign-thread/827665/16): > > > > […]Hillary was _supposed_ to have been elected and the military industrial complex was _supposed_ to have gotten their war with Assad, Russia and Iran, but things didn’t turn out that way. Trump was ostentatious enough to deflect the media at every turn. I don’t have confidence that Tulsi will be capable of the same. > > > > Still, I wish her all the luck. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9071 "2019-01-15T19:31:22Z")
In the **Trump’s Shutdown** thread, sociopath **WillFarnaby** is having [an Ayn Rand Wetdream](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21431240&postcount=136). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9072 "2019-01-15T20:09:28Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > In the **Trump’s Shutdown** thread, sociopath **WillFarnaby** is having [an Ayn Rand Wetdream](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21431240&postcount=136). :rolleyes: And does that make him a troll, or just misguided? Do you think he’s posting that just to get a rise out of people, or because he really believes it? In this case, the worse case is the second, and I believe that’s the one that’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9073 "2019-01-15T20:14:02Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Do you think he’s posting that just to get a rise out of people, or because he really believes it? On the SDMB, one who posts something they really believe in a manner deliberately designed to get a rise out of people is still a troll. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9074 "2019-01-15T23:08:49Z")
I think it’s just true in general. There’s no real difference between a true believer who posts to piss people off and someone who doesn’t believe a word they say. The important part is that they are trying to get a rise out of people, not whether or not they really mean it. Limiting it to things you don’t mean also makes it hard to moderate, as a troll can just claim they really believe it, and it’s difficult to prove them wrong. Since it stirs up the same shit either way, it makes sense to treat it the same. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9075 "2019-01-15T23:20:15Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > And does that make him a troll, or just misguided? Do you think he’s posting that just to get a rise out of people, or because he really believes it? In this case, the worse case is the second, and I believe that’s the one that’s true. Agreed. He’s the poster child of the “F\*\*\* You, I Got Mine” meme of the modern conservative wing. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9076 "2019-01-15T23:20:39Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > On the SDMB, one who posts something they really believe in a manner deliberately designed to get a rise out of people is still a troll. > [@BigT](#): > > I think it’s just true in general. There’s no real difference between a true believer who posts to piss people off and someone who doesn’t believe a word they say. The important part is that they are trying to get a rise out of people, not whether or not they really mean it. Well, I think this needs clarification. Publishing Charlie Hebdo is not trolling. Walking into a mosque wearing a t-shirt with a Charlie Hebdo cartoon is trolling. We have no general right not to be offended, just that people not be total jerks. If someone holds sincere political views they have every right to express them _in a thread on that topic_, however much they might annoy us. Under those circumstances, the difference between views that annoy some people and views that are designed _solely_ to annoy people is adequately captured by the concept of “sincerity”. We can, however, reasonably expect such views not to pop up constantly to derail threads on barely-related topics. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9077 "2019-01-15T23:28:48Z")
> [@What is trolling?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-trolling/544298/4): > > From the [Registration Agreement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=423183): > > > [@](#): > > > > You are free to express your views in a forceful manner provided you remain civil. Hate speech, insults, and **purposely inflammatory remarks (i.e., trolling)** will not be tolerated. > > Bolding mine. Trolling does not necessarily require that the position taken must be insincere. The principle requirement is that the post is for the principle intention of making people angry or upset. > > Nor does the admission of trolling absolve the troller of the charge. … ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9078 "2019-01-15T23:57:54Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Well, I think this needs clarification. Publishing Charlie Hebdo is not trolling. Walking into a mosque wearing a t-shirt with a Charlie Hebdo cartoon is trolling. We have no general right not to be offended, just that people not be total jerks. > > If someone holds sincere political views they have every right to express them _in a thread on that topic_, however much they might annoy us. Under those circumstances, the difference between views that annoy some people and views that are designed _solely_ to annoy people is adequately captured by the concept of “sincerity”. > > We can, however, reasonably expect such views not to pop up constantly to derail threads on barely-related topics. The rules aren’t quite specific on this point but I’ll agree with **Riemann** that just because something offends does not mean that it was intended to offend. Folks are, of course, free to think that someone is a troll because they posted something that ticks them off; since intent is so difficult to prove, I prefer to jerk my knee a little more carefully. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9079 "2019-01-16T04:06:29Z")
I present **[ChunkyLord](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=869009)**. Meditation is his game. Well, one meditation app. One specific one. Won’t you try it for 30 days? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9080 "2019-01-16T04:15:07Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I present **[ChunkyLord](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=869009)**. Meditation is his game. Well, one meditation app. One specific one. Won’t you try it for 30 days? He’s apparently been around since '16. But yeah, several threads in a row about his new found beloved cult leader. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9081 "2019-01-16T04:37:20Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > He’s apparently been around since '16. But yeah, several threads in a row about his new found beloved cult leader. And as soon as one is closed, he pops up in a different forum. One thread started with a long couple of paragraphs that was inoffensive and thoughtful… until the last sentence, where _sho nuff…_ he just HAS to turn it into a commercial. Which, in my opinion, negated so much of what he’d just said. I laughed at the first reply to his latest… > [@The greatest skill I've ever acquired in my Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-greatest-skill-ive-ever-acquired-in-my-life/827842/2): > > Coming Next: > > In My Humble Opinion - SAM HARRIS’ MEDITATION APP is the BEST app > About this Message Board - This message board should be a place on which SAM HARRIS’ MEDITATION APP can be discussed > Comments on Cecil’s Columns - Did Cecil ever do a column about SAM HARRIS’ MEDITATION APP? > General Questions - How many people on the board know about SAM HARRIS’ MEDITATION APP? > > Give it a rest, man. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9082 "2019-01-16T04:45:31Z")
Why isn’t he considered a spammer? TRY THE APPPPPPPPPP! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9083 "2019-01-16T05:31:07Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > The rules aren’t quite specific on this point but I’ll agree with **Riemann** that just because something offends does not mean that it was intended to offend. Folks are, of course, free to think that someone is a troll because they posted something that ticks them off; since intent is so difficult to prove, I prefer to jerk my knee a little more carefully. No, really, I have some genuinely outrageous ideology, which I believe makes sense, but it would almost certainly alienate others here, so I keep it in the box (next to the ambiguity), because if I go freaking people out, I become marginalized (cf. **Will Farnaby** ). And honestly, if you want a conversation, what good does it do to drive other people off? Better to gently nudge them toward the precipice. And besides, I have come to the conclusion that we are all wrong in out deep-seated beliefs. Better to find the balance of wrongness that is likely to work out for the best. So, fuck the trolls off. There is enough pissiness to go around without them adding to it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=453) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=455)