# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9490 "2019-03-19T19:28:29Z")

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> [@Are you privileged or oppressed?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-privileged-or-oppressed/831322/56):
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> it wouldnt be the first time i got jumped on by a bunch of people on a forum

This looks awfully familiar…

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9491 "2019-03-19T22:56:52Z")

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Yes - **cd** seems very familiar. Almost as though we’ve met him before…

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9492 "2019-03-19T23:27:29Z")

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Yes, it’s all coming back, like the madeleine in the tea… or a mouthful of soggy biscuit, at any rate.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9493 "2019-03-20T01:15:06Z")

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> [@customdistro](#):
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> and even form cabals of super-involved internet aunties to vote on which posters they like and dont like.
> 
> which itself is nothing like middle school at all…

Aunties? Ah, is that what you think is edgy, being a misogynistic troll?

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Oh, trust me, it’s totally not worth the bother. So just shake your head and leave, and good riddance, fucking troll. You can’t even be bothered to press the “Shift” key to capitalize sentences, so I doubt you’d be bothered to engage any working brain cells you might actually have to generate an actual thought or carry on a serious conversation.
> 
> Let’s see how sincere you are about your offer to fuck off. Don’t forget to come back using a different name. Again.

Oh, he can certainly bother to hit the shift key. See above about the parentheses (aka “brackets”). He’s just being “edgy” with intentionally not using capital letters. The thing is, he’s no e e cummings.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9494 "2019-03-20T08:39:25Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Oh, he can certainly bother to hit the shift key. See above about the parentheses (aka “brackets”). He’s just being “edgy” with intentionally not using capital letters. The thing is, he’s no e e cummings.

He isn’t even adult bookstore mop bucket cummings.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9495 "2019-03-24T03:38:07Z")

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[Second post ever, defending the current White House occupant in the thread about friends who support said occupant.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21553749&postcount=162)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9496 "2019-03-24T04:54:00Z")

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I was shocked to learn it’s been 3 years already in the Trump presidency. We have much to learn from our new friend.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9497 "2019-03-24T08:44:58Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> How does that assumption hold up against people who don’t give the first rusty shart what the poster **BigT** thinks?
> 
> Personally, I’ll just keep glancing at the membership status below my name. As long as it doesn’t say “Banned,” then nobody whose opinion matters thinks I’m a troll.

Well, that’s a bizarre reaction. I clearly was talking about **customdistro** , who did what I described in my post. So why did you randomly get all offended?

I mean, it would make sense for **customdistro** to respond that way, but why would you? I can think of one reason, but surely that’s not it, right?

And why would you be reading a thread about who everyone else thinks is trolling when you only care what the mods think?

Seriously, dude. I had no reason to suspect anything of you until this bizarre post. Either you think you have been trolling, or you have some personal issue with me. Either way, I don’t have time for it. Goodbye.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9498 "2019-03-24T16:19:11Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Well, that’s a bizarre reaction. I clearly was talking about **customdistro** , who did what I described in my post. So why did you randomly get all offended?
> 
> I mean, it would make sense for **customdistro** to respond that way, but why would you? I can think of one reason, but surely that’s not it, right?
> 
> And why would you be reading a thread about who everyone else thinks is trolling when you only care what the mods think?
> 
> Seriously, dude. I had no reason to suspect anything of you until this bizarre post. Either you think you have been trolling, or you have some personal issue with me. Either way, I don’t have time for it. Goodbye.

So you ask a bunch of questions, then say you don’t have time for it? That’s pretty bizarre. Downright trolly. Big trolly, you might even say.

I’ve made no secret what I think of this thread and of the freelance trollhunters who most often post to it. As to you, personally, I was just pointing out that junior mods like you have nothing worthwhile to add.

'Bye, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9499 "2019-03-24T18:02:56Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> I’ve made no secret what I think of this thread and of the freelance trollhunters who most often post to it. As to you, personally, I was just pointing out that junior mods like you have nothing worthwhile to add.
> 
> 'Bye, I guess.

Still something of a secret. What’s your objection to this thread?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9500 "2019-03-24T18:42:08Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> Still something of a secret. What’s your objection to this thread?

Well, people worry and fret that the board is dying, then there’s this big honker that attacks basically every new poster who dares raise their head. Why _would_ anybody want to hang around? That’s not how you treat new members.

Sure, some of them actually are trolls and some of them are returning socks. But most of them aren’t. This isn’t a thread for finding trolls, it’s a competition for who can out a troll the quickest, whether there is an actual troll involved or not. Might as well just be hollering _First!_ on every new thread page.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9501 "2019-03-24T19:41:03Z")

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Oh, we’re plenty welcoming to [those who welcome us](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=872856).

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9502 "2019-03-24T22:18:54Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Well, people worry and fret that the board is dying, then there’s this big honker that attacks basically every new poster who dares raise their head. Why _would_ anybody want to hang around? That’s not how you treat new members.
> 
> Sure, some of them actually are trolls and some of them are returning socks. But most of them aren’t. This isn’t a thread for finding trolls, it’s a competition for who can out a troll the quickest, whether there is an actual troll involved or not. Might as well just be hollering _First!_ on every new thread page.

Yeah, I can see that.

I don’t think the board is dying because newcomers are treated poorly though. I’m not all that convinced that we _get_ that many genuine newcomers.

What would attract someone to this board when there are far more interesting places on the internet? I can rarely find a thread I’m interested in reading. The political debates are monotonous, the sexism and racism run rampant, and there’s only so many times one can read “how do you wipe your ass after pooping?” So many good, interesting posters have left, many of them women.

With all of that, I don’t think this thread plays much of a role.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9503 "2019-03-25T00:35:49Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Well, people worry and fret that the board is dying, then there’s this big honker that attacks basically every new poster who dares raise their head. Why _would_ anybody want to hang around? That’s not how you treat new members.
> 
> Sure, some of them actually are trolls and some of them are returning socks. But most of them aren’t. This isn’t a thread for finding trolls, it’s a competition for who can out a troll the quickest, whether there is an actual troll involved or not. Might as well just be hollering _First!_ on every new thread page.

So, your contention is that this thread “attacks basically every new poster”, and that “most of them aren’t” trolls or socks or otherwise deserving of it? This thread has been around for nearly three years. It is now approaching 10,000 posts. If what you claim is even remotely true, if it is anything more than just a bizarre delusion on your part, then it should be easy for you to find dozens of examples where a valuable new poster posting in good faith was unfairly criticized here, just because s/he was new. Can you?

No doubt among these thousands of critiques there may be an example of an otherwise constructive poster being called out for some passing weirdness, but if you can’t back up your claim with many examples of unjustified attacks, I think your claim can be safely regarded as idiotically wrong. What I find is that a large percentage of the posters who have been ridiculed here were subsequently banned, and there’s a reason for that.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9504 "2019-03-25T01:01:39Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> What would attract someone to this board when there are far more interesting places on the internet? I can rarely find a thread I’m interested in reading…

I’m trying to follow all these arguments… are you making the point that you’re surprised a troll would post here, when normal people wouldn’t either?

So then why aren’t you over at “far more interesting places on the internet”? \*  
[  
(psst, they have otters…)](https://www.doi.gov/blog/12-facts-about-otters-sea-otter-awareness-week)\*  
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9505 "2019-03-25T02:37:10Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> So, your contention is that this thread “attacks basically every new poster”, and that “most of them aren’t” trolls or socks or otherwise deserving of it? This thread has been around for nearly three years. It is now approaching 10,000 posts. If what you claim is even remotely true, if it is anything more than just a bizarre delusion on your part, then it should be easy for you to find dozens of examples where a valuable new poster posting in good faith was unfairly criticized here, just because s/he was new. Can you?
> 
> No doubt among these thousands of critiques there may be an example of an otherwise constructive poster being called out for some passing weirdness, but if you can’t back up your claim with many examples of unjustified attacks, I think your claim can be safely regarded as idiotically wrong.

Oh noes! Somebody criticized your pathetic little pastime!

> [@](#):
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> What I find is that a large percentage of the posters who have been ridiculed here were subsequently banned, and there’s a reason for that.

Cite? Your own ball is now in your court.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9506 "2019-03-25T02:38:22Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> With all of that, I don’t think this thread plays much of a role.

Maybe, maybe not. No matter the percentages, it’s a sucky way to treat new people.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9507 "2019-03-25T02:53:08Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Oh noes! Somebody criticized your pathetic little pastime!

I don’t know what the fuck that is even supposed to mean. This isn’t about me. More support for my theory that you’re delusional.

> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Cite? Your own ball is now in your court.

No, moron, it is not. I’m not going to go through 10,000 posts ridiculing hundreds of trolls to compile for you a list of all the trolls, misfits, and lunatics that have been deservedly banned, when all I’m asking you to do is support your absurd contention – _ **with just a few examples** _ – that this thread has systematically attacked new posters for no good reason. If you’ve reached this awesome conclusion but can’t cite even two or three examples, then I respectfully request you to fuck off and stop thread-shitting and making delusional claims.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9508 "2019-03-25T03:05:04Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I don’t know what the fuck that is even supposed to mean. This isn’t about me. More support for my theory that you’re delusional.
> 
> No, moron, it is not. I’m not going to go through 10,000 posts ridiculing hundreds of trolls to compile for you a list of all the trolls, misfits, and lunatics that have been deservedly banned, when all I’m asking you to do is support your absurd contention – _ **with just a few examples** _ – that this thread has systematically attacked new posters for no good reason. If you’ve reached this awesome conclusion but can’t cite even two or three examples, then I respectfully request you to fuck off and stop thread-shitting and making delusional claims.

You think I’m going to do that either? I’ve got better things to do than read too much of this garbage.

Let me boil it down for you… I think that a single instance of an innocent newbie being dragged across the coals so you can get your jollies is one too many. You are evidently fine with it.

That makes you an asshole. It makes all your little junior troll hunter friends assholes. You’ve got a great big asshole circle jerk going on… and you seem to think you’re doing something good, something productive. That makes you a fool.

The report button is there for any real trolls you happen across. For everyone else, if you want to pit them, then pit them–but let the training wheels come off first.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/9509 "2019-03-25T03:33:40Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> You think I’m going to do that either? I’ve got better things to do than read too much of this garbage.

And yet you’re the reigning authority on all the unfair criticisms in this thread. It’s just that, due to being so busy and all, you can’t actually cite any.

> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
>
> Let me boil it down for you… I think that a single instance of an innocent newbie being dragged across the coals so you can get your jollies is one too many.

I agree. I’m still fascinated to know when I’ve “dragged an innocent newbie across the coals” to get my jollies.

> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
>
> You are evidently fine with it.

Like I said, you’re delusional.

> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
>
> That makes you an asshole. It makes all your little junior troll hunter friends assholes. You’ve got a great big asshole circle jerk going on… and you seem to think you’re doing something good, something productive. That makes you a fool.

Good thing that this thread has never been used to disparage anyone. I guess it’s OK if _ **you** _ do it, because … well, see below:

> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> The report button is there for any real trolls you happen across. For everyone else, if you want to pit them, then pit them–but let the training wheels come off first.

Ah, so you’re not just an authority on board culture despite your recent join, but also self-appointed junior moderator and board administrator. It’s certainly one of the most rapid career ascents I’ve ever seen, especially for a moron who can’t even back up his own worthless arguments.

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