# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10551 "2019-12-11T16:42:08Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> OK, but where does “sitting at the table with them” begin?

Around the time you rock up with 2 sixpacks. The extra one is to pour out for your poor departed \*Mitläufer \*.

In other words, it’s not about debating with Nazis or anything like that. It’s about cozying up to them and licking their jackboots.

Not that “Holocaust denier” and “Nazi” are synonymous, in any case.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10552 "2019-12-11T17:01:01Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Not that “Holocaust denier” and “Nazi” are synonymous, in any case.

I didn’t expect you to self-destruct quite so spectacularly.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10553 "2019-12-11T17:08:04Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> I didn’t expect you to self-destruct quite so spectacularly.

I don’t know what you think self destruction is, but that’s hardly it. That’s just a true fact.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10554 "2019-12-11T17:18:03Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I don’t know what you think self destruction is, but that’s hardly it. That’s just a true fact.

You insist upon drawing a distinction between Holocaust deniers and Nazis.

Gee, I wonder why.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10555 "2019-12-11T17:33:07Z")

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Wouldn’t be that surprised if there were a Holocaust denier who was not actually a Nazi. Based on a happy state of ignorance, since I don’t know anyone who fits either category.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10556 "2019-12-11T17:34:25Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> You insist upon drawing a distinction between Holocaust deniers and Nazis.
> 
> Gee, I wonder why.

Some Nazis are proud of the Holocaust and don’t bother denying it.

And there are whole groups of people who deny the Holocaust besides Nazis.

Neither of these are obscure facts to anybody with half a brain and minimal political awareness. I can see how that might exclude you, but don’t project your intellectual failings my way with whatever weird veiled hinting you’re doing.

Got something to say, say it, motherfucker. Or, you know, take up my original suggestion and fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10557 "2019-12-11T17:35:57Z")

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[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad) is a Holocaust denier and certainly not a Nazi; he’s anti-Semitic.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10558 "2019-12-11T17:41:35Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> So-called ‘hate speech’ far too often is nothing of the sort.

Remember, kids: if a random guy on the Internet says it’s fine, it’s fine!

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> Eve when it is hateful, it’s better for people to have freedom instead of the state or a mob tolerated by the state having the power to violently suppress freedom of expression.

Being held accountable for one’s bigotry is not being “violently suppressed”. And being denied a private platform for one’s views is likewise not being “violently suppressed”.

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> 1. Buy a history book.
> 2. Read it.

We did. That’s how we know what Nazis are when we encounter them.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10559 "2019-12-11T18:23:09Z")

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Good riddance Hurricane Shithead!

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10560 "2019-12-16T16:14:41Z")

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Oh, [come the fuck on.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=886901)

It couldn’t be a more obvious troll if it painted itself green and ran up and down the main drag in a loincloth dragging a club behind it. Yelling “Trolling Times Are Here Again!” at the top of its lungs.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10561 "2019-12-16T17:37:59Z")

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I would like to see a sample of his work.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10562 "2019-12-16T17:51:21Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Oh, [come the fuck on.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=886901)
> 
> It couldn’t be a more obvious troll if it painted itself green and ran up and down the main drag in a loincloth dragging a club behind it. Yelling “Trolling Times Are Here Again!” at the top of its lungs.

You have to admire the OP there. It’s all perfectly fine and then, right at the end, it’s suddenly “Oh dear, I appear to have accidentally dropped my bucket of poison down your well. Oopsie!”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10563 "2019-12-16T17:54:45Z")

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Withholding judgement for the moment. Poster **Conspirologist** has only posted once so far. Xe may turn out to be entertaining, so perhaps we shouldn’t scare’em off just yet.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10564 "2019-12-16T19:16:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Withholding judgement for the moment. Poster **Conspirologist** has only posted once so far. Xe may turn out to be entertaining, so perhaps we shouldn’t scare’em off just yet.

Now he’s started a real thread, and I’m going to go with either entertaining or sad, depending on your views of mental illness.

[**I must warn that the elite have conceived human clones**](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=886908)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10565 "2019-12-16T19:29:15Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Now he’s started a real thread, and I’m going to go with either entertaining or sad, depending on your views of mental illness.
> 
> [**I must warn that the elite have conceived human clones**](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=886908)

So, all it takes to become elite is to give birth to twins?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10566 "2019-12-16T19:30:38Z")

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Yeah, I’m not a psychologist, but this kinda screams untreated schizophrenia to me.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10567 "2019-12-16T19:33:13Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Yeah, I’m not a psychologist, but this kinda screams untreated schizophrenia to me.

Are you new to the internet?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10568 "2019-12-16T20:00:13Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Yeah, I’m not a psychologist, but this kinda screams untreated schizophrenia to me.

We’ve had some schizophrenic delusional posts on here before. They are usually not that coherent. They make tons of connections that only make sense to them.

Not sure if they’re a troll or not yet, though. Conspiracy theorists who are convinced they have proof something happened do exist. I do think pretending to be one would be a good troll strategy, but I didn’t see a blatant troll tell yet.

You do have to be careful to distinguish between profoundly irrational people and trolls. Simply making an extremely flawed argument is not enough alone to identify trolling.

It needs to be done in a way that would piss a reasonable person off, or which plays on the known hot buttons of the target audience.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10569 "2019-12-16T20:08:17Z")

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Yeah, I also think that’s just another garden variety conspiracy loon. We haven’t had one in a quite a long time.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10570 "2019-12-16T20:21:53Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> We’ve had some schizophrenic delusional posts on here before. They are usually not that coherent. They make tons of connections that only make sense to them.

Yeah, not schizophrenic. Just a sad, weak excuse for a person who’s desperate to have secret knowledge that gives some control over a sad, weak excuse for a life.

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