# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10871 "2020-03-16T13:40:46Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But you guys so thoroughly tied the misogyny and lack of welcoming women that I got called misogynistic for defending the guy

Shut up, **BigTurd**. You still are.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10872 "2020-03-16T13:55:29Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> It’s not deserved at all.

Are you evaluating Skald’s OP in isolation, or as a part of his larger body of work?

If the thread had been started by a new poster, or by an established poster without a history of problems, I can see your points. But reading the OP in light of the poster’s prior history, I mean, come on.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10873 "2020-03-16T14:09:44Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> It’s not deserved at all. **expectopatronum** came in and attacked **Skald** outside the Pit **for saying he had a girlfriend** , pulling one of the most basic forms of trolling. It was a hit job, to try and piss him off enough to get him in trouble. It’s the same shit that people did to other more angry posters.
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> It’d be one thing if **Skald** ’s thread was even about sex, but it wasn’t. It was about PDA and how the virus might affect it. No one who didn’t have a previous beef with **Skald** got upset about it.
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> The only reason people think he’s “a troll on the margins” is that they are looking for it. They are scrutinizing everything he posts as if it’s some sort of way to get under their skin. There’s no clearer picture of this when he gets lambasted for saying he has a girlfriend and discussing PDA–you know, those forms of affection that are so innocuous that we do them in public.
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> But you guys so thoroughly tied the misogyny and lack of welcoming women that I got called misogynistic for defending the guy, despite being the guy who had been pushing for misogyny (like other bigotry) being treated as against the rules.
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> And I’m sure it will again. Or I’ll be accused of being blind because I like the guy. No, I just see shitty behavior being rewarded. Or just told to shut up, because that sure proves someone wrong!
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> It really is just that I find this behavior appalling and hate that it is rewarded. This was the most unreasonable one yet, yet it got the worst consequence for him. I say it because I find it wrong to stay silent when the consequences for standing up for the right thing is so small.

You know, I don’t even thinking about misogyny when I read his posts - which I mostly avoid, tbh. But when I do, I think, ‘creepy angry guy with a weird fetish for sex related hypotheticals seeking attention’. Which is a shame, because despite obviously loving the sound of his own voice, he writes reasonably well.

But hey, maybe you’re right and maybe I’m wrong about him being a tiresome twat with a penchant for creating some implausible hypothetical situation that’s vaguely inappropriate. But now that he’s topic banned, perhaps his content will improve and I’ll find him interesting. Or maybe he’ll take his favorite toy and stomp off home. Let’s see.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10874 "2020-03-16T14:09:50Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> So it’s easier to believe that **expectopatronum** was engaging in some sort of manipulative scheme than to believe that she was just angry?
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> Dismissing a woman’s anger is classic misogyny.
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> I wish the mods would topic-ban you from talking about women’s issues because you’re an ignorant sexist know-it-all with a severe case of logorrhea.

I don’t usually +1 something, but…

+1. Stop treating us as if the only reason we could be angry is to manipulate you big strong men.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10875 "2020-03-16T14:17:24Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> So it’s easier to believe that **expectopatronum** was engaging in some sort of manipulative scheme than to believe that she was just angry?
> 
> Dismissing a woman’s anger is classic misogyny.
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> I wish the mods would topic-ban you from talking about women’s issues because you’re an ignorant sexist know-it-all with a severe case of logorrhea.

I have to say that I just love this definition that popped up in Google:

> [@](#):
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> log·or·rhe·a  
> /ˌlôɡəˈrēə/
> 
> noun  
> a tendency to extreme loquacity.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10876 "2020-03-16T14:18:55Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Lol, you’re snarking that I just counted the last month? What’s a non-arbitrary time limit?

Any time since his last major flounce should be fair game, IMO. So, around the time he started getting sarcastic with his sig and thread OPs.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10877 "2020-03-16T14:22:03Z")

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(oh dear, now I might be called shrill, or harpy or evvvvil woman with an ax to grind, because BigT doesn’t understand. )

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10878 "2020-03-16T14:22:48Z")

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lo·quac·i·ty (noun): garrulity, verbosity, volubility, logorrhea.

:smack:

Now don’t start that again!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10879 "2020-03-16T14:37:17Z")

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[Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SesquipedalianLoquaciousness) 😃

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10880 "2020-03-16T15:43:15Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> This was the most unreasonable one yet, yet it got the worst consequence for him.

If, as you suggest, Skald is _not_ actually a creepy, fetishizing loser who continuously squicks people out with his made up stories of sexual conquest, then why do you consider a topic ban against _sex_ to be “the worst consequence for him”. Seems to me that you actually do understand what kind of character Skald really is, which is why you see the topic ban as such a horrible punishment for him. Otherwise, you would have viewed the ban as harmless or even “frivolous”. Instead, you consider it to be the worst possible punishment.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10881 "2020-03-16T15:44:34Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Any time since his last major flounce should be fair game, IMO. So, around the time he started getting sarcastic with his sig and thread OPs.

He mentioned sex with his girlfriend in passing. It’s not remotely like the bizarre humiliation fantasies he was warned over. Seems a little on the hair trigger side to get all worked up about it. Has expecto seen a bunch more examples recently? Because otherwise, it sure looks like she’s on high alert to grind her axe.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10882 "2020-03-16T16:11:09Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> He mentioned sex with his girlfriend in passing.

In a thread about “public” displays of affection. Doesn’t that strike you as a bit of a non sequitur? Is it normal for someone to actually just mention sex “in passing” like that? I think you’re focusing too much on the quantity of sex or level of sexual detail in his post rather than on the fact that it had fuck-all to do with the actual topic. Just throwing in mentions of sex “in passing”, for no reason whatsoever, is exactly the issue people are having. A thread about sex is one thing. A thread about pizza toppings which just happens to mention sex with his girlfriend “in passing” is a bit squicky.

What are your favorite pizza toppings? I ordered two medium meat lovers pizzas yesterday because I don’t like vegetables. And, I won’t mention how much my very real girlfriend also loves the meat. Know what I’m saying? So, yea anyway, sausage, pepperoni, beef and anchovies are the best toppings. I don’t know how anyone could get just a plain cheese pizza. What kind of pizza do you like?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10883 "2020-03-16T16:19:27Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Or maybe he’ll take his favorite toy and stomp off home.

He’s mad because no one would buy him a lunch box.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> He mentioned sex with his girlfriend in passing. It’s not remotely like the bizarre humiliation fantasies he was warned over. Seems a little on the hair trigger side to get all worked up about it. Has expecto seen a bunch more examples recently? Because otherwise, it sure looks like she’s on high alert to grind her axe.

Another moron weighs in. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10884 "2020-03-16T16:19:42Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> In a thread about “public” displays of affection. Doesn’t that strike you as a bit of a non sequitur? Is it normal for someone to actually just mention sex “in passing” like that? I think you’re focusing too much on the quantity of sex or level of sexual detail in his post rather than on the fact that it had fuck-all to do with the actual topic. Just throwing in mentions of sex “in passing”, for no reason whatsoever, is exactly the issue people are having. A thread about sex is one thing. A thread about pizza toppings which just happens to mention sex with his girlfriend “in passing” is a bit squicky.
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> What are your favorite pizza toppings? I ordered two medium meat lovers pizzas yesterday because I don’t like vegetables. And, I won’t mention how much my very real girlfriend also loves the meat. Know what I’m saying? So, yea anyway, sausage, pepperoni, beef and anchovies are the best toppings. I don’t know how anyone could get just a plain cheese pizza. What kind of pizza do you like?

Sort of a non sequitur, until you realize that it makes “social distancing” with his girlfriend completely useless which was sort of the point of the thread.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10885 "2020-03-16T16:35:10Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> What are your favorite pizza toppings? I ordered two medium meat lovers pizzas yesterday because I don’t like vegetables. And, I won’t mention how much my very real girlfriend also loves the meat. Know what I’m saying? So, yea anyway, sausage, pepperoni, beef and anchovies are the best toppings. I don’t know how anyone could get just a plain cheese pizza. What kind of pizza do you like?

“Toppings, you say? My gay lover and I both enjoy a good topping.”

Yes, that is a perfectly normal conversational gambit among strangers.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10886 "2020-03-16T16:36:52Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Sort of a non sequitur, until you realize that it makes “social distancing” with his girlfriend completely useless which was sort of the point of the thread.

So why even ask about that?

Gee, even though I’m totally having sex, should I pretend I’m not so people don’t ask me why I’m not practicng social distancing? How about you- if you are totally having sex, do you pretend you’re not? This is only relevant if you’re totally having sex, though, like I am, after cleaning the whole house of course because safety first!

In (social); isolation, it might not raise an eyebrow. But with context, it comes across as trying to push the boundaries.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10887 "2020-03-16T16:40:38Z")

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So are you sleeping in a separate bedroom from your significant other? I don’t get what you are confused about. His thread was basically “do you limit PDAs because of the pressure to “social distance” even though it’s meaningless?”.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10888 "2020-03-16T16:55:43Z")

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The entire PDA/sex thing was unnecessary to begin with.

If you are out with your children or parents or other family members, do you avoid all physical contact with them? Do you maintain a distance of 2m from them? Take separate cars?

There was no real need to bring physical intimacy into the equation to begin with. It was a creepy way of pulling an old act with just enough of a veneer of reasonableness in a lame attempt at line avoidance.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10889 "2020-03-16T16:57:46Z")

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He just makes those long posts because he has nothing else to do. He’s loquacious of bored.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10890 "2020-03-16T16:58:39Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> He just makes those long posts because he has nothing else to do. He’s loquacious of bored.

I see what Hugh did there.

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