# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1081 "2017-04-09T01:31:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s as much of a troll as ridiculing Trump as Drumpf or calling Trump an orangutan. Ahahahahahahaha! You actually _believe_ that! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1082 "2017-04-09T01:37:02Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You’re really not worth expending any effort on, even to insult, you pathetic wart. > > Bolding mine. And yet you just did you senile old coot. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Are you arguing with what I actually said, or something else? Not sure what this has to do with what I said. With what you said. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Ahahahahahahaha! > > You actually _believe_ that! Yes because I’m not a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1083 "2017-04-09T01:49:25Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > With what you said. Not from this perspective. No idea what my post had to do with your response. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1084 "2017-04-09T01:49:58Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Yes because I’m not a hypocrite. But you are an imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1085 "2017-04-09T01:52:30Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s as much of a troll as ridiculing Trump as Drumpf or calling Trump an orangutan. Emphasizing President Obama’s middle name is to imply his alleged “Muslimness”. Trump’s family name in the past actually is Drumpf. No one will actually think he’s an orangutan despite the resemblance. He does have a face only a proctologist could love. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1086 "2017-04-09T02:02:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > But you are an imbecile. I may need some aloe for that burn! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1087 "2017-04-09T02:03:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Emphasizing President Obama’s middle name is to imply his alleged “Muslimness”. > > Trump’s family name in the past actually is Drumpf. No one will actually think he’s an orangutan despite the resemblance. > > He does have a face only a proctologist could love. Who cares? Point is some people will be angered by insulting or ridiculing politicians they like. I think the Hussein part is silly. But I think the Drumpf part is equally silly. That is imbecilic according to the sages in this forum though. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1088 "2017-04-09T02:14:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s as much of a troll as ridiculing Trump as Drumpf or calling Trump an orangutan. No, it is not, you stupid, ignorant, bigoted hypocrite. Highlighting Obama’s middle name is a call to other bigots. Ridiculing Trump I by calling him Drumpf is pointing out what a dumb-fuck Trump is. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1089 "2017-04-09T03:15:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > No, it is not, you stupid, ignorant, bigoted hypocrite. Highlighting Obama’s middle name is a call to other bigots. Ridiculing Trump I by calling him Drumpf is pointing out what a dumb-fuck Trump is. Ah simple Monty! A prime example of the adunning Kruger effect. How exactly does it illustrate how Trump is dumb? I typed that question out extra slow just for you. Random unsubstantiated insults that you probably don’t even know the meaning of is sad. The ironic thing is your post actually makes you what you call me. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1090 "2017-04-09T03:24:54Z")
Come on, folks, at least in this thread it makes sense to not feed them. Let’s talk about someone else for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1091 "2017-04-09T03:27:12Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > If poking at a former or current president is what suffices to be labeled a troll 84.4727% of the board would qualify. As a point of information - the warning for trolling wasn’t solely based on the Hussein bit. Simply using Obama’s full name isn’t sufficient to sustain a charge of trolling, IMO. Since this is about moderation feel free to open a thread in ATMB if you’d like to discuss further. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1092 "2017-04-09T03:44:57Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > As a point of information - the warning for trolling wasn’t solely based on the Hussein bit. Simply using Obama’s full name isn’t sufficient to sustain a charge of trolling, IMO. Since this is about moderation feel free to open a thread in ATMB if you’d like to discuss further. No, I’m not concerned with the moderation on this board as I feel for the most part it’s quite fair. I’m more concerned with the hypocrisy of the board members with what behavior constitutes trolling. Call Obama an orangutan? Racist troll. Call Trump an orangutan? Just stating facts! I don’t do either but if I were to call presidents some form of primate I’d at least be an equal opportunity offender instead of holding on to fake double standards. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1093 "2017-04-09T04:03:17Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Call Obama an orangutan? Racist troll. > Call Trump an orangutan? Just stating facts! Have you not noticed that one is markedly [darker](http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/italian-politician-slammed-for-orangutan-racial-slur-29421131.html) than the other? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1094 "2017-04-09T04:17:02Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Have you not noticed that one is markedly [darker](http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/italian-politician-slammed-for-orangutan-racial-slur-29421131.html) than the other? So what? Equal treatment is equal treatment. Orangutans aren’t even dark. Point being, in an equal society people need to be treated equally. Don’t want Obama called a primate? Don’t call Bush or Trump a primate. If you want civility act civil. If you treat one political group badly don’t be surprised if they act in kind. Personally, I think all people who refer to presidents as apes are childish. According to simple Monty that makes me an ignorant bigot but I, of course disagree. I think you can get your point across about how a particular president has traits or policies that are disagreeable without dehumanizing him or her or zx. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1095 "2017-04-09T07:10:35Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So what? Equal treatment is equal treatment. Orangutans aren’t even dark. > > Point being, in an equal society people need to be treated equally. Don’t want Obama called a primate? Don’t call Bush or Trump a primate. If you want civility act civil. If you treat one political group badly don’t be surprised if they act in kind. > > Personally, I think all people who refer to presidents as apes are childish. According to simple Monty that makes me an ignorant bigot but I, of course disagree. I think you can get your point across about how a particular president has traits or policies that are disagreeable without dehumanizing him or her or zx. You are, as pointed out before, a lying sack. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1096 "2017-04-09T15:18:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You are, as pointed out before, a lying sack. Where is the lie, simple Monty? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1097 "2017-04-10T09:24:57Z")
Your assertion that according to me calling a president an orangutan is bigotry is simply a lie. Of course, you’re pretending that’s my assertion, when, in fact, my assertion is that calling a Black man, whether he is president or not, an orangutan, a monkey, a chimpanzee, etc., is racist. The same cannot be said for calling a White man that because, whether you like it or not, there are historical facts. One of those facts is that Blacks have been dehumanized in the past and that dehumanization was to the point of slavery and Jim Crow. Another bit of your dishonesty is in your asinine parsing of what trolling is on a White supremacist board and on this board. It is quite clear that the other board is set up for the very purpose of mouthing such hate speech. This board, on the other hand, is about fighting ignorance, not perpetuating it. I’d suggest you try to be honest in the future, but that is clearly beyond your meager mind’s ability. I have a very short ignore list and you just increased its membership. I do, however, look forward to seeing your banning anouncement on ATMB. You are clearly, one might even say foolishly, headed in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1098 "2017-04-10T11:15:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > … I do, however, look forward to seeing your banning anouncement on ATMB. … I got $20 that says that if that happens, there will be no announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1099 "2017-04-10T11:36:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Your assertion that according to me calling a president an orangutan is bigotry is simply a lie. Of course, you’re pretending that’s my assertion, when, in fact, my assertion is that calling a Black man, whether he is president or not, an orangutan, a monkey, a chimpanzee, etc., is racist. The same cannot be said for calling a White man that because, whether you like it or not, there are historical facts. One of those facts is that Blacks have been dehumanized in the past and that dehumanization was to the point of slavery and Jim Crow. > > Another bit of your dishonesty is in your asinine parsing of what trolling is on a White supremacist board and on this board. It is quite clear that the other board is set up for the very purpose of mouthing such hate speech. This board, on the other hand, is about fighting ignorance, not perpetuating it. > > I’d suggest you try to be honest in the future, but that is clearly beyond your meager mind’s ability. I have a very short ignore list and you just increased its membership. I do, however, look forward to seeing your banning anouncement on ATMB. You are clearly, one might even say foolishly, headed in that direction. This was an awesome takedown! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/1100 "2017-04-10T12:46:31Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > This was an awesome takedown! Thanks. Feel free to add it to the smackdown thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489.md?page=56)