# Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489 "2016-05-23T21:38:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8017 "2018-05-19T22:39:26Z")

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> [@Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4522):
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> I get really frustrated with so many people taking F-P seriously (they actually debate his points like he’s making honest attempts to understand the facts).
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> But there was one response that brilliantly summed up what’s been so obvious:
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> > [@Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4522):
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> > You aren’t making reasonable inferences from the evidence, which is what people do when they try to make a neutral decision. Instead, you’re arguing like a defense lawyer. That’s fine, but those of us trying to judge the evidence don’t have to sit in that posture.
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> Although I might call it the opposite of fine…

That interpretation of F-P’s argument style is really much too kind. Making unreasonable inferences from the evidence is what F-P does in his rare periods of rational lucidity. The rest of the time, as I found out from trying to debate him on health care, the “evidence” he presents is either flat-out wrong or deceptively cherry-picked. It’s a lot like debating with a gun nut. The only thing that matters is that they win the argument. Even acknowledging inconvenient facts, let alone being swayed by them, is not in the cards.

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