# Omnibus World Football Thread 2020-2022 (edited) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\ **Created:** [August 16, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264 "2020-08-16T15:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/822 "2023-02-06T16:09:58Z")
I believe many of the earlier charges in this action are the same as what UEFA attempted to sanction City for a few years ago (banning them from the Champions League). But the CAS (sport arbitration court) overturned that penalty because there was a statute of limitations that had expired. This Premier League panel is not bound by CAS, and City will have no appeal (at least to that body) of any penalties levied. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/823 "2023-02-06T16:18:41Z")
I did not realise the Premier League did, I find it interesting. For the record: Spanish La Liga does care about corruption and creative bookkeeping. Selectively. For certain clubs. Sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/824 "2023-02-08T19:54:10Z")
Starting to get quite pissed actually with Ligue 1 - none of the other top four leagues have such gross displays that _multiple_ Ligue 1 teams do, with their worthless subhuman fans and their _barrages_ of laser-pointers. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/825 "2023-02-09T14:40:03Z")
Guess who’s back? Except this time, it just seems to be some sort of extra tournament… > **[European Super League 'would be open competition'](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64578730)** > > A new-look European Super League would be a competition with no permanent members and based on sporting performance, says A22 chief executive Bernd Reichart. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/826 "2023-02-09T15:08:27Z")
After burning any good will they could have about it they want to install a new tournament with no advantages over the Champions Cup or other stablished tournaments and without any history or traditional appeal?. eh, may be they’ll succeed if they spend enough money, I hope they crash and burn. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/827 "2023-02-09T15:14:02Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Except this time, it just seems to be some sort of extra tournament… That was the same thing with the original Super League. It was intended to be a Champions League contender, and the clubs would remain in their own domestic leagues. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/828 "2023-02-21T03:03:24Z")
[Barcelona paid referee 7 million euros for “consultancy fees”.](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/20/barcelona-la-liga-xavi-hernandez-former-referee-payments-scandal) Ruh roh. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/829 "2023-02-21T03:37:34Z")
It’s totally “normal” apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/830 "2023-02-23T18:44:02Z")
Real Madrid spotted Liverpool a two goal lead at Anfield yesterday and came back with five straight goals of their own to win convincingly. They may not be the dominant lineup of a few years ago but they still look as good as anyone left in this tournament. One could make the argument that Vinicius is as effective for Real as Mbappe is for PSG at the same position. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/831 "2023-02-25T18:06:47Z")
Haaland just set the Man City single season scoring record with ~14 games left in the season. Baring injury he’ll get the EPL record. The overall record still possible too. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/832 "2023-02-27T21:44:51Z")
They are announcing the FIFA “The Best” awards. Best Goalkeeper: Emiliano “Dibu” Martinez, Argentina. Best Coach: Lionel “Leonidas” Scaloni, Argentina. Best Fans: Republica “Muchachos” Argentina. Best Player: Lionel Andres “The holy messiah” Messi, Argentina. With our usual humility and equanimity we accept those prizes and the heavy responsibility of dissolving the U.N. and start ruling the world, it’s a difficult job but someone has to do it. (that’s how it works right?) ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/833 "2023-02-27T22:09:10Z")
Will this be the dawning of Argentinian rule over the world? I don’t know much about Argentina (I know that they have a [near] state bankruptcy every other year, but those things just happen) , but maybe better than the USA, China or Russia… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/834 "2023-02-27T22:42:40Z")
There you go worrying about trifling stuff, bankruptcies are temporary, Futbol is forever. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/835 "2023-03-09T03:45:49Z")
Bayern puts PSG away - not with ease, but also not with difficulty – kind of mid. I didn’t fully understand PSG’s tactics, but they seemed to struggle under high pressure. On to the quarterfinals! I do wish Dortmund had pulled it out against Chelsea, though. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/836 "2023-03-09T14:02:00Z")
From far away and not having given it too much attention, my WAG is that PSG thinks that a football team is just a collection of individual players, just buy the most expensive players and you’ll surely win everything. They seem unable to learn that it does not work that way, even after several failures. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/837 "2023-03-09T14:43:49Z")
There’s an old German football wise saying, “Geld schießt keine Tore”, “Money doesn’t score goals”, and though that’s not categorically true (Bayern’s team wasn’t cheap either and doesn’t play for change), there’s a kernel of truth to it. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/838 "2023-03-09T15:11:12Z")
Money is necessary but not sufficient. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/839 "2023-03-09T15:46:11Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > From far away and not having given it too much attention, my WAG is that PSG thinks that a football team is just a collection of individual players, just buy the most expensive players and you’ll surely win everything. > They seem unable to learn that it does not work that way, even after several failures. PSG has basically built its structure around three players who attack very well, but who don’t defend or fight for midfield possession (though Neymar does defend sometimes). I was looking at stats this morning, and was shocked to see that Mbappe, across 8 matches, only covered 7.7 km/90 minutes. That’s essentially a guy who walks around quite a bit, with the occasional run in between. For contrast, the 33-year-old Thomas Mueller, who runs around like a madman on both offense and defense, makes tackles, and has a high goals/assists, usually covers more than 11 km/90 minutes, and sometimes 12. Money is clearly buying PSG some good results, but not good enough for the money spent. Not nearly. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/840 "2023-03-09T15:52:32Z")
There is a saying here “Teams are built from the back towards the front” (“Los equipos se arman de atras para adelante”), meaning start with a good defense and build from that. They haven’t heard it in France it seems. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/841 "2023-03-09T18:20:55Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > They haven’t heard it in France it seems. In France maybe, but not in Quatar… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264.md?page=43)